[pct-l] pills for first aid kit

Thu Jan 22 21:06:19 CST 2009

Maybe it goes without saying, but if by "Vicadin", you're refering to
Vicodin (tm) aka hydrocodone/acetominophen aka the most abused
pharmaceutical in recent history, don't just "...take a few tabs
with...", take them in the original dispensing container, with it's
label protected by some clear tape, and with the receipt from the
pharmacy (in an abundance of caution) Having your Dr's office and cell
#'s along is also a good idea. Undocumented Schedule 3 drugs can land
one in jail until the cops decide to take the time to call your
pharmacy or Dr. (if they do at all), and the DEA is currently looking
to increase the classification of Vicodin and other combo hydrocodones
to Schedule 2, i.e., heavier penalties, etc. This may have already
happened, not sure....

fenu

On 1/22/09, GARY HEBERT <hikerfedex at gmail.com> wrote:
> I work around hospitals and know lots of Emergency Dept docs who would help
> me out with this.....
>
> I've not done this but UL gurus swear by this: before they leave, they get
> and fill a script for Vicadin or other powerful pain med and take a few tabs
> with them on backcountry trips. Their rationale is if they break a major
> bone they're days away from any rescue, maybe just self rescue. They
> maintain that popping a Vicadin could be the difference between life and
> death in backcountry. If you could tolerate the pain you could do anything
> to get out. Don't assume any rescue will come to you. If nothing else you
> could cut the hike out/carry out time in half if you can meet them part way
> out.  It certainly would help suck it up.
> Similarly for the combo single pill for aniti diarhea/nausea. A few of those
> would help you hike out 3-5 days to a road while not getting incredibly
> dehydrated. Think how miserable you are AT HOME when you have the runs or
> vomitting multiple times all day or nite. A few tabs might help you tolerate
> such an episode on the trail (whether caused by poor hygiene or random bad
> luck).
>
> Another option I never followed through with but intended to was to get and
> fill a script for a Z-pack or other generic all purpose antibiotic. This
> would have done wonders for me on the AT. I hiked into town in Franklin for
> a bad blister. The clinic hooked me up with an antibiotic pill & salve.
> Could have just stayed on the trail if I had my own. (The key of course in
> self diagnosing and treating is understanding correct dosing and taking the
> whole dose of antibiotic so not to create a resistant infection by taking
> half the dose, then stopping when it starts feeling/looking better).
>
> I may invoke both of these for the PCT as it's so easy to do (if you know
> somebody or just are a good salesman to any doc). Think how great a Zpak
> would be if you got an infected wound or upper respiratory infection...or
> stumbled into a Terrorist camp making Anthrax..(Cipro is treatment!)....you
> neva know!
>
> FedEx
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Joe <jsrnfl at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>    I've been a camper/backpacker for years. I'm also a RN, prior EMT. I
>> have thought about taking an advanced wilderness first air course,
>> probably never will, common sense does goes a long way. And have
>> improvised a few times. Always learning. Saw the anti diarhhea/nausea
>> pills mentioned on your post and will add them to our first aid kit.
>> Never needed them, hope that will stay true.
>>
>> Joe3
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