[pct-l] Ride Share from Portland to Campo kickoff date

Lucas Zoucha jalukool at gmail.com
Wed Jan 14 00:46:29 CST 2009


Im looking to catch a ride from Portland, Oregon (Ore-a-gun) to Campo  
around kick off time. Mid April  or so. Ill have my pack and my dog.  
Ill throw in for gas. anyone passing through? any suggestions?
I, Lucas, am a 28 year old male and my hound, Cody Molasses Jones,  
are thru hiking and need to solve the "getting to the starting line"  
issue.
thanks
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:41:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Oregon
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> No matter how many times they are corrected, all my relatives from  
> the midwest, still call my home state Ar ee GON......
> But Len is right, with the accent on the first syllable....
> OR a gun!
> OR a gun!
> OR a gun!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeannie Zortman <jeanmzortman at aol.com>
>> Sent: Jan 12, 2009 8:46 PM
>> To: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net> <pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct- 
>> l at backcountry.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
>>
>> Or - e- gun, long e!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And shortly thereafter, you will be in 'Or-a-gun', not '-gon' (like
>>> hexagon), as I was informed on two occasions.
>>>
>>> On 1/12/09, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's taken me three seasons through there to get this absolutely
>>>> straight, but it's SIGH-ad, not SAY-ad. And the locals WILL correct
>>>> you on that point.
>>>>
>>>> DP
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:31:50 +0000
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Oregon
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> Many of us small-town folk in Northen Ca. use the more simplistic  
> two syllables; OR GUN.  It makes it more simple for the crazy folks  
> that think we should create a new State of Jefferson as well.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net
>
>>
>> No matter how many times they are corrected, all my relatives from  
>> the midwest,
>> still call my home state Ar ee GON......
>> But Len is right, with the accent on the first syllable....
>> OR a gun!
>> OR a gun!
>> OR a gun!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeannie Zortman
>>> Sent: Jan 12, 2009 8:46 PM
>>> To: Len Glassner
>>> Cc: " "
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
>>>
>>> Or - e- gun, long e!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Len Glassner wrote:
>>>
>>>> And shortly thereafter, you will be in 'Or-a-gun', not '-gon' (like
>>>> hexagon), as I was informed on two occasions.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/12/09, David Plotnikoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's taken me three seasons through there to get this absolutely
>>>>> straight, but it's SIGH-ad, not SAY-ad. And the locals WILL  
>>>>> correct
>>>>> you on that point.
>>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:23:48 -0800
> From: Suzannah Swinehart <suz_quz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Oregon, My Oregon...or whatever our song is
> To: PCT L <pct-l at backcountry.net>, <jeanmzortman at aol.com>
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> I have to protest. As a lifelong resident of that state sandwiched  
> between WA an CA, it's
>
> Or - eh - gun
>
> With a short e, like in net. I can't think of any natives I know  
> that say it with a long e. Maybe on
> the other side of the state...
>
>
> Now: how about we take up the pronunciation of Washington? Or is it  
> Warshington?
>
> -Chipmunk
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:46:41 -0700
> From: Jeannie Zortman <jeanmzortman at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
> To: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net> <pct-l at backcountry.net>"
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> Or - e- gun, long e!
>
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:30:54 -0500
> From: "Pat" <krozby at zoominternet.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon, My Oregon...or whatever our song is
> To: "Suzannah Swinehart" <suz_quz at hotmail.com>,	"PCT L"
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> Whatever happened to Jefferson?
>
> I have to protest. As a lifelong resident of that state sandwiched  
> between
> WA an CA, it's
>
>
> -Chipmunk
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:53:38 +0000
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon, My Oregon...or whatever our song is
> To: "Pat" <krozby at zoominternet.net>, "Suzannah Swinehart"
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> What happened to it?  It never existed.  It was a pipe (or maybe a  
> bong) dream of people that thought they were getting the short end  
> of something from the state government.
>
> But that's just my opinion.
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Pat" <krozby at zoominternet.net>
>
>> Whatever happened to Jefferson?
>>
>> I have to protest. As a lifelong resident of that state sandwiched  
>> between
>> WA an CA, it's
>>
>>
>> -Chipmunk
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:56:41 -0800
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>
>> OK, since we are talking about geographical pronunciations, I will
>> throw my two cents in about my small home town.  Just east of Etna
>> and and southeast of Siead Valley is the town of Yreka.  If you are
>> passing through you should stop in at the Yreka Bakery.  Let it be
>> known that it doesn't matter if you are hiking northbound or
>> southbound the name is pronounced the same frontwards or backwards.
>
> How do you pronounce Yreka? I have always said Why reeka. You know,
> because it starts with a Y, unlike the other Eureka.
>
> By the way, if anyone decides to detour to play the slots, the state
> is pronounced Nevada (short a like apple), not Nevahhhda.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:16:41 -0800
> From: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
> To: "'Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com'"
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> We are entertained every year by the pronunciations of the following:
> Cajon, Tejon, Idyllwild, and Tehachapi. I'm not sure I'd want that to
> change!
>
> L-Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l- 
> bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pronunciation of Seiad
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>
>> OK, since we are talking about geographical pronunciations, I will
>> throw my two cents in about my small home town.  Just east of Etna
>> and and southeast of Siead Valley is the town of Yreka.  If you are
>> passing through you should stop in at the Yreka Bakery.  Let it be
>> known that it doesn't matter if you are hiking northbound or
>> southbound the name is pronounced the same frontwards or backwards.
>
> How do you pronounce Yreka? I have always said Why reeka. You know,
> because it starts with a Y, unlike the other Eureka.
>
> By the way, if anyone decides to detour to play the slots, the state
> is pronounced Nevada (short a like apple), not Nevahhhda.
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:27:51 -0800
> From: Suzannah Swinehart <suz_quz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] The State of Jefferson
> To: <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>, <krozby at zoominternet.net>, PCT L
> 	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> (OK, this is getting a bit off topic, except that it's part of the  
> history of an area through which the PCT passes...so...)
>
> Sheesh...I forgot about Jefferson! OK, the only OFFICIAL state  
> sandwiched in between WA and CA. The one with an actual star on the  
> flag. And Malachi, as a Canadian, kindly pointed out to me that  
> "eh" even has regional variations. I give up! :)
>
> Funny thing about that pipe/bong dream idea... The residents of  
> that area are often painted as being, ahem, a little on the redneck  
> side. Much more so than, say, those darn pot-smoking liberals in  
> Eugene. Yet on the other hand, those Siskyou hillsides are known  
> for an awful lot of illicit farming operations...
>
>
> For a little about the history of the secessionist movement read  
> http://www.jeffersonstate.com/jeffersonstory.html
> And this is from Wikipedia:On November 27, 1941,
> a group of young men gained national media attention when, brandishing
> hunting rifles for dramatic effect, they stopped traffic on U.S.  
> Route 99
> south of Yreka, and handed out copies of a Proclamation of
> Independence, stating that the state of Jefferson was in "patriotic
> rebellion against the States of California and Oregon" and would
> continue to "secede every Thursday until further notice."
> The secession movement came to an abrupt end, though not before John
> C. Childs of Yreka was inaugurated as the governor of the State of
> Jefferson. The first blow was the death of Mayor Gable on December  
> 2, followed five days later by the attack on Pearl Harbor on  
> December 7.
>
> ***
>
> I really like the part about "seceding every Thursday until further  
> notice".
>
> -Chipmunk
>
>
> --------
>
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> To: krozby at zoominternet.net; suz_quz at hotmail.com; pct- 
> l at backcountry.net; jeanmzortman at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon, My Oregon...or whatever our song is
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:53:38 +0000
>
>
> What happened to it?  It never existed.  It was a pipe (or maybe a  
> bong) dream of people that thought they were getting the short end  
> of something from the state government.
>
> But that's just my opinion.
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Pat" <krozby at zoominternet.net>
>
>> Whatever happened to Jefferson?
>>
>> I have to protest. As a lifelong resident of that state sandwiched  
>> between
>> WA an CA, it's
>>
>>
>> -Chipmunk
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:48:54 -0500
> From: "GARY HEBERT" <hikerfedex at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shirts on the trail.
> To: yetifan at yahoo.com, Pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Yes, well said.
> Cotton may be ok when it's sunny & warm as the sweat will make you  
> feel
> cool. But for almost all other conditions most gurus agree "cotton  
> kills"
> (particulary in cold weather when losing body heat is not only  
> uncomfortable
> but dangerous). Cotton takes MUCH longer to dry out than synthetics  
> and
> smartwool and does not insulate well when wet or even damp. You  
> lose far
> more body heat through wet clothing (sweat, wet = wicks body heat  
> away) than
> air (dry trapped air = insulation).  That's the whole basis of  
> layering
> clothing - trapped (dry) air retains body heat against your skin &  
> torso.
>
> Some swear by smartwool which feels better than poly synthetic  
> stuff when
> damp/wet/sweaty and dries quickly. Smartwool tends to not retain  
> body odor
> as much as many synthetic fabrics.
>
> Others swear by any of many synthetics which wick perspiration away  
> from
> your skin, dry quickly and still insulate pretty good when damp/wet/ 
> sweaty.
> Poly's tend to retain body odor til they're washed again, but so what?
>
> I have several brands of smartwool Long and short sleeve shirts and  
> a number
> of various material synthetic/poly wicking shirts. They all work  
> pretty
> well, some are lighter weight or just feel better against my skin.  
> But they
> all work. They all dry much quicker and feel better against my skin  
> when
> wet/sweaty vs. cotton t-shirts I wear around town all year under other
> layers.
>
> I've never done so but have read many gurus opinions in forums who  
> hike in
> button down cheap silk or polyester dress shirts. They dry very  
> quickly and
> are somewhat wind & water resistant to light sprinkling of rain.
>
> FedEx
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:53:14 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shirts for the trail
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Get an el-cheapo polyester (or even a 65/35 Poly-cotton blend..  
> they are so light and thin
> the cotton won't matter) thrift store dress shirt.  Probably less  
> than $5.  I used one on most of my hikes.
> The CDT one is still in use for my backpacking trips here in CO.
>
> They are light.  Offer sun and bug protection.They dry
> quickly. AND it is button down so I can get
> snazzy when I hitch into town.
> Woo hoo!
>
>
>
>
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