[pct-l] Hiking Tehachapi through Yosemite... Best season
Veena Sud
kmffilms at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 12 21:36:06 CST 2009
Hi -- I'm new to the PCT, training right now to hike end of May (a section of it) and really want to start in the mountains, eastern Sierras. My dog will be with me and he needs cool-ish weather since he suffered a heatstroke a few years ago (and shouldn't hike in the desert.) But will it be too cold and snowy?
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Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 50
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1. Re: Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes
(Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
2. Re: Midwestern hikers (David Margavage)
3. Durability of Rainwear (Rod Miller)
4. Pronunciation of Talus (Deems)
5. Re: Pronunciation of Talus (Cris)
6. Re: Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes (At Rerunner)
7. Re: Durability of Rainwear (Bob Sartini)
8. Re: Pronunciation of Talus (Bob Bankhead)
9. Re: Durability of Rainwear (Thomas Jamrog)
10. Shirts for the trail (Rick Ostheimer)
11. Midwest transport to San Diego (Rick Ostheimer)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:10:45 -0800
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:51 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes
I used a plastic, 3 gallon laundry detergent bucket. This was a
mistake. Even though it contained no bleach or detergent, some post
offices told me it was not legal to use the bucket. Others told me
otherwise. One post office finally covered up the entire bucket with
priority mail stickers so nobody could see it used to be a laundry
detergent bucket.
If you use cardboard, you can always find a new box in the dumpster.
I would do that to send stuff home.
Having a bounce bucket is nice, but I think I would like to try it
without a dedicated bucket next time. If I need to send stuff ahead,
I'll find a box in the dumpster. If not, then I won't have to worry
about it.
P.S. Put a bathing suit in your bounce bucket (if you're a woman,
anyway). Some hotels have a no street clothes in the pool policy. And
carry your bathing suite through Lassen National Park. You're DON'T
want to miss Drakesbad.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:18:04 -0500
From: David Margavage <davidmargavage at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Midwestern hikers
To: "Trailwife at aol.com" <Trailwife at aol.com>,
Pct-l at backcountry.net
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Try Southwest, two weeks ago they were $69 + tax. I missed it and bought
nine for $93+ tax last week. Louisville to Chicago to SAN. Try several
differnent dates. Wednesdays are good.
On 1/12/09, Trailwife at aol.com <Trailwife at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is Chicago the Midwest? Here is a sample link for $100 an air fares in
> mid-April.
>
> _
>
https://air.ultimatefares.com/ufibe/FlightSearchResult.do;jsessionid=841CD880
> CEBA90EF1ADF16EE4CF5C75C?airline=nosort_
> (
>
https://air.ultimatefares.com/ufibe/FlightSearchResult.do;jsessionid=841CD880CEBA90EF1ADF16EE4CF5C75C?airline=noso
> rt)
>
> The Old RidgeRunner
> who will probably be flying out of Tampa if not driving out with friends.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/12/2009 4:23:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> packinit48 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Another Mid-western (Michigan) hiker ringing in for 2009. Just bought an
> airline ticket on Northwest for $220 to SanDiego. That seems like a good
> deal
> compared to a 2 night train trip for $199. Thought other Mid-westerners
> might
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:17:47 -0800
From: Rod Miller <rod at rodmiller.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Durability of Rainwear
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I have a Marmot Precip rain jacket that is about
three years old.
There was a lot of rain during my last hike in SW
Australia. I noticed that the sleeves no longer
shedded water, but became soaked. While they dried
out quickly when it wasn't raining, I became concerned
that the body of the jacket would eventually stop
shedding H2O too.
My questions are: does rainwear fabric (perhaps just
the Precip) "wear out" even though it is structurally
intact (no rips and tears, etc.), and is the soaking a
sign that the jacket needs to be replaced?
Thanks
Rod
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:19:36 -0800
From: "Deems" <losthiker at sisqtel.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Pronunciation of Talus
To: "pct" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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The English Language is an evolving, changing organism, witness the
increasing mixing-up of "well" and "good", likewise
"me" and "I".
Eventually, Tah-lus may replace Tay-les, but for now...??? A rose by any
other name smells just as sweet or, put another way, climbing over tay-les
or tah-les can be just as difficult. :)
Dr Bob
~~~~
I named my cat Talus when she showed up in 1997. Her dog friend at the time
was Pika, and since all the pikas I met in the wilderness lived in talus,
well her name made perfect sence. I let Pika raise Talus, and they became
great friends . Alas, Pika is gone, Talus is now 12, and has Kelly as her
dog friend. Kelly is more a nemisis than a friend, but Talus still controls
the relationship with her sharp wit. I pronounce Talus with a short
"a" and
short "u" , and it sounds like "kitty kitty". She knows her
name just the
same.
http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/talus
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:23:01 -0600
From: "Cris" <cj5w4wd at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pronunciation of Talus
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: BobandShell97 at verizon.net
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Ok, since it's still winter....
How do you pronounce Seiad Valley?
Cris
...mountains don't tolerate fools...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of kmurray at pol.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:59 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Pronunciation of Talus
>
> Dr. Bob wrote:
> "For years, I mis-pronounced "talus." The dictionaries are
uniform in
> indicating "Tay-lus" as the preferred pronunciation.
>
> Still learning... or at least trying."
>
> NOPE. You were correct in the first place. Tay-lus is the correct
> pronunciation of the bone in the foot. Tal-lus is the correct
> pronunciation of large scree.
>
> They are spelled the same, but not pronounced the same.
>
> (as played by the audio of the online Merriam Webster Dictionary)
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/talus
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:22:55 -0600
From: "At Rerunner" <atrerunner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes
To: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com"
<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID:
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I'm not sure if the post office would accept these, but i used to use
them in my boat (second pic down) and if you ask at a deli or
restaurant, you can get them cheap or sometimes free; they are very
sturdy/spillproof and have a screw-top w/o-ring seal
http://www.myccr.com/SectionGear/GearInfo/Barrels.htm
I suppose that they'd be perfect if you resupply by boat :)
fenu
On 1/12/09, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
<diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:51 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
>> Midwest anyone? & Bounce Boxes
>
> I used a plastic, 3 gallon laundry detergent bucket. This was a
> mistake. Even though it contained no bleach or detergent, some post
> offices told me it was not legal to use the bucket. Others told me
> otherwise. One post office finally covered up the entire bucket with
> priority mail stickers so nobody could see it used to be a laundry
> detergent bucket.
>
> If you use cardboard, you can always find a new box in the dumpster.
> I would do that to send stuff home.
>
> Having a bounce bucket is nice, but I think I would like to try it
> without a dedicated bucket next time. If I need to send stuff ahead,
> I'll find a box in the dumpster. If not, then I won't have to
worry
> about it.
>
> P.S. Put a bathing suit in your bounce bucket (if you're a woman,
> anyway). Some hotels have a no street clothes in the pool policy. And
> carry your bathing suite through Lassen National Park. You're
DON'T
> want to miss Drakesbad.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:23:17 -0500
From: "Bob Sartini" <r.sartini at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Durability of Rainwear
To: "Rod Miller" <rod at rodmiller.com>,
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <DE53B838DDF84854A0A99775722C5CF3 at Den>
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I have a Redledge rain jacket. 15oz. I have used it 2000 + miles. I wore it
in the shower and it remains totally waterproof. It has pit zips. I
recommend it. It will not keep you warm if its very cold and you are just
standing around.
"EVERYTHING is in walking distance,"
......Bamboo Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Miller" <rod at rodmiller.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Durability of Rainwear
>I have a Marmot Precip rain jacket that is about
> three years old.
>
> There was a lot of rain during my last hike in SW
> Australia. I noticed that the sleeves no longer
> shedded water, but became soaked. While they dried
> out quickly when it wasn't raining, I became concerned
> that the body of the jacket would eventually stop
> shedding H2O too.
>
> My questions are: does rainwear fabric (perhaps just
> the Precip) "wear out" even though it is structurally
> intact (no rips and tears, etc.), and is the soaking a
> sign that the jacket needs to be replaced?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:29:12 -0800
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pronunciation of Talus
To: "Cris"
<cj5w4wd at earthlink.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <E257E75FEC3247C4863D40280C32D88B at BOB>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
"Sigh ad" with the accent on the first syllable, long "i"
sound
----- Original Message -----
From: Cris
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: BobandShell97 at verizon.net
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pronunciation of Talus
Ok, since it's still winter....
How do you pronounce Seiad Valley?
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:35:22 -0500
From: Thomas Jamrog <balrog at midcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Durability of Rainwear
To: Rod Miller <rod at rodmiller.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <8E952410-74EB-4002-BBE6-2D271DECD6A4 at midcoast.com>
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I once had a Patagonia Super Pluma rain jacket that was not that worn,
but eventually discovered that in the rain my lower arms got wet, but
not my torso. Inspection of the lining revealed fine cracks in the
coating. Patagonia has a lifetime warrantee, so I took it to the
store to have them take a look at it. They immediately determined
that the lining was delaminating and let me pick out a new one. Since
then I carry both a rain jacket and a light 4 oz. windshirt, reasoning
that using the rain jacket over and over, as warming and a wind jacket
could cause it to prematurely wear and be less effective as a raincoat
when I needed it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Uncle Tom
Blogging about the Great Outdoors
on http://tjamrog.wordpress.com ( hotlink)
On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Rod Miller wrote:
> I have a Marmot Precip rain jacket that is about
> three years old.
>
> There was a lot of rain during my last hike in SW
> Australia. I noticed that the sleeves no longer
> shedded water, but became soaked. While they dried
> out quickly when it wasn't raining, I became concerned
> that the body of the jacket would eventually stop
> shedding H2O too.
>
> My questions are: does rainwear fabric (perhaps just
> the Precip) "wear out" even though it is structurally
> intact (no rips and tears, etc.), and is the soaking a
> sign that the jacket needs to be replaced?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:59:47 -0500
From: Rick Ostheimer <rick.ostheimer at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Shirts for the trail
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <496BF593.9060005 at sbcglobal.net>
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I don't think cotton is a very good idea. I used a long-sleeved Mtn Hdw
synthetic for most of the trail. On the
AT, I used a smartwool lightweight T shirt. Both breathe quite well,
but the way I sweat both got quite wet with exertion, yet stayed "warm
when wet". The Mtn Hdw synthetic dried quicker than the smartwool, but
the smartwool smelled a lot better after five days on the trail. I
still use both even though they have a well-used look.
Handlebar
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:04:43 -0500
From: Rick Ostheimer <rick.ostheimer at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Midwest transport to San Diego
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <496BF6BB.4050805 at sbcglobal.net>
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Last year I booked early (around Feb) for my April flight from
Pittsburgh to SanDiego: $120 including all airport fees and taxes on
Southwest.
Handlebar
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