[pct-l] CORRECTION: Permits for the rest of us

[Engraving Pros]

Descanco Cleveland National Forest Ranger Station.
 
"If you wish to camp outside of the developed campgrounds in the Descanco
Cleveland National Forest Ranger district you must obtain a free Visitors
Wilderness Permit"
 
Recorded message 619-445-6235 press 2 for more information.
 
I only brought this up because it is my back yard and I have been busted by
Rangers more than once for not having a permit. Busted being - once they
made me go to the nearest Ranger Station and obtain a permit and once 
the Ranger issued me a permit on the spot.
 
Robert

--- On Sun, 2/8/09, AsABat <AsABat at 4jeffrey.net> wrote:

From: AsABat <AsABat at 4jeffrey.net>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] CORRECTION: Permits for the rest of us
To: mail at engravingpros.com, pct-l at backcountry.net, "'JIM BANKS'" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 11:35 AM

What is the source of this? Boulder Oaks to Garnet Peak is not
wilderness, so why would you need a wilderness permit? 

I have asked several times about a permit to remote camp on the
Cleveland NF, and all they have ever issued me is a campfire permit. 

Yes, no remote camping in the Laguna Rec Area. The area is heavily used
by day users and has a number of developed sites and vacation homes. 

AsABat

> You are right. I spoke without looking at the map. You do need a
permit to
> camp
> in Cleveland National Forest between Boulder Oaks Campground and
Garnet
> Peak.
> So if you hike that 26 miles without camping, no permit required.
> Wilderness
> visitors permits are required to camp in this area. Information via
the
> Descanco
> Cleveland National Forest Ranger Station. Also, no remote camping is
> allowed in
> the Laguan Recreational Area. Which is basically the whole top of the
> mountain
> from mile 41 to mile 53 north bound. No wood or charcoal fires outside
of
> the
> man made campgrounds. The list of things you can't do goes on and
on...