[pct-l] base pack weight

[Stephen Adams]

I'll 4th it.  I got a Marmot Arroyo years ago, and rated at 30 degrees, I slept it below that regularly in a bivy sack and was always toasty.  It's been relegated to warm weather due to aging, but when it was new, it had the loft of a much colder rated bag.  That was 775 loft down of high quality.  I was always impressed with it being only two pounds.  The REI Sub-Kilo I replaced it with when it finally lost some warmth though rated ten degrees colder at 20 degrees, just doesn't seem like as high a quality down, though also a good bag.        
On Dec 24, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Postholer wrote:

>> I'll second that the Marmot bags are great quality.
> 
> I'll 3rd that. My Helium bag is my favorite piece of gear also. It performs 
> great and drys fast. I'm the same height as Austin and use the extra space 
> at the bottom of the bag for a water bottle (keep it from freezing) and 
> valuables. The long at 32oz is relatively light.
> 
> -postholer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at 
> backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Austin Williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:26 PM
> To: Phil Newhouse; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] base pack weight
> 
> Great question.  My Marmot Helium bag is rated at 15 degrees F.  I sleep
> cold and it worked well for me. When it's cold out, I sleep with all my
> clothes on inside the bag.  I think that adds quite a bit of warmth.  I had
> a few chilly nights while above 6,000 ft, but that's to be expected.  Even
> on those nights I wasn't shivering.
> 
> It really is the best piece of gear I've ever bought.
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