[pct-l] Cooking within...

[Stephen Adams]

I'm with David on this.  I'm all for keeping the stove out in the vestibule, with either a flap tied back securely, or the door open.  Rain and snow never slowed down any of my stoves with a good windscreen.  I don't even cook inside my big summer skeeter net.  I cook out and eat in !  
With my old single pole wedge tent that doesn't really have a vestibule, when I've used it snow camping I simply keep the stove just outside one of the doorways, whichever one blocks the wind better.  
And this is where tarps have a definite advantage.  Cooking under a tarp in the rain is really nice, tons of ventilation, and pretty safe if you keep your gear and clothes away from the stove.  
On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:30 PM, David Ellzey wrote:

> I've used the tent's vestibule numerous times for preparing meals in inclement weather and never felt ventilation was a concern at all. The thing I REALLY pay attention to is the fire hazard. As Ned said, always have a plan to quickly eject the stove if it starts acting up. In my case, I leave the vestibule door open at least halfway and set up the stove near that opening.
> 
> BigToe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Gary Wright
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking within...
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> Some data...
> 
>> From the CDC:
>> In the United States during 1990-1994, portable fuel-burning camp stoves and lanterns were involved in 10-17 CO poisoning deaths each year, and charcoal grills were involved in 15-27 deaths each year (2). During this same time, an annual average of 30 fatal CO poisonings occurred inside tents or campers (2).
> <http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4832a1.htm>
> 
> And from the Wilderness Medical Society:
> 
> Carbon Monoxide Poisoning in Tents -- A Review:
> <http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?request=get-document&issn=1080-6032&volume=015&issue=03&page=0157>
> 
> In scanning that info it sounds like the injuries and deaths are highly correlated to the amount of ventilation.  Snow caves, zipped up tents, and tents surrounded by snow seem to be particularly dangerous (when the stove is burning inside the enclosure). I don't think anyone on this list has advocated actually bringing the stove *inside* a closed up tent but it is always good to be aware of what *not* to do.
> 
> Gary Wright
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