[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 16, Issue 89
Pat brooking
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Sun Apr 26 18:31:33 CDT 2009
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Knees (Jonathan Blees)
> 2. Journaling sites (Jim & Brenda Johnson)
> 3. Re: Journaling sites (Eric Lee)
> 4. Re: Journaling sites (Scott Bryce)
> 5. Re: Knee Pain (Tortoise)
> 6. Garmin Oregon 400t - was Garmin GPS maps with PCT Shown?
> (RJ Lewis)
> 7. Compass as related to the Garmin discussion (Danny Wormington)
> 8. Empty water cache (Claudia)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:23:59 -0700
>From: "Jonathan Blees" <Jblees at energy.state.ca.us>
>Subject: [pct-l] Knees
>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>,<staci1713 at yahoo.com>
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>Hello Staci,
>
>I've had a miniscectomy on each knee. My routine for avoiding knee pain: do leg extensions (no more than halfway down) and leg curls while not hiking, travel as light as possible (including wearing running shoes), stay well-hydrated, and stretch often, esp calves.
>
>Have a great hike!
>
>Wildheart
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Staci Labuda <staci1713 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] transportation from fresno to sequoia
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
><Snip>
>Ohh also I was wondering, this has nothing to do with the transportation, but, does anyone have advice on what to do to prevent knee pain? I had surgery on my meniscus twice, I still run and its fine, it just gets sore now and then. I have a feeling that with this long hike that I need to do a little extra for it. Should I wear a knee brace? Should I take certain vitamins? My mom suggested MSM, but I wanted advice from real hikers :).
>
>Thanks
>Staci
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:42:25 -0600
>From: Jim & Brenda Johnson <jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca>
>Subject: [pct-l] Journaling sites
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>Now that the party is on and the Class of '09 is underway,
>I wonder what everyone's thoughts are regarding the
>journal sites that are out there ... Trail Journals and
>Postholer, and any others.
>
>Pros and cons of each. Just curious.
>
>Thanks,
>Jiffypop
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:11:35 -0700
>From: "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Journaling sites
>To: "'Jim & Brenda Johnson'" <jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>Jiffypop wrote:
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>
>Now that the party is on and the Class of '09 is underway,
>I wonder what everyone's thoughts are regarding the
>journal sites that are out there ... Trail Journals and
>Postholer, and any others.
>
>
>
>I haven't maintained my own journal on either site, but I've read a lot of
>journals. My impression is that Postholer has many more handy features for
>journal writers, but the TrailJournals format is easier to read for some
>reason.
>
>Eric
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:37:32 -0600
>From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Journaling sites
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <49F3667C.1070803 at scottbryce.com>
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>Eric Lee wrote:
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>>I haven't maintained my own journal on either site, but I've read a
>>lot of journals. My impression is that Postholer has many more handy
>>features for journal writers, but the TrailJournals format is easier
>>to read for some reason.
>>
>>
>
>I have kept a journal on Trail Journals. I have come to the same conclusion.
>
>The Trail Journals back end is klunky for the journalist. Postholer has
>more features for the journalist. Trail journals is easier to read.
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>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:51:37 -0700
>From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Knee Pain
>To: Lost and Found <hikingis4me2 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <49F393F9.3050003 at charter.net>
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>If you have bad or weak knees or just worried about them, I strongly
>recommend you use trekking poles. They will lessen the strain on your
>knees as well as reducing the chances of a fall.
>
>I am NOT a doctor and this is not medical advice. Just my experience.
>
>Tortoise
>
><> He who finishes last, wins! <>
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>Lost and Found wrote:
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>>Staci - I section hiked Oregon last year and fell down a cliff 30 feet the second day. Vitamin I (ibuprofen) was my best friend - every 4 hours when awake, and at night, I had some prescription muscle relaxers left over from tendonitis. I also put my knees over my pack in my tent (pack was crosswise with pad on top of pack) and that helped a lot. So if you have any meds left over from your surgeries, bring them along. You may need them. Invest in a large bottle of vitamin I and divvy them up for your mail drops. Good Luck. Ice packs/cold brew helped a lot on zero days.
>>
>>Life is an adventure on two feet.
>>
>>Who is Lost and Found who hikes?
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>>Message: 3
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>>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>From: Staci Labuda <staci1713 at yahoo.com>
>>
>>Subject: [pct-l] transportation from fresno to sequoia
>>
>>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>>Message-ID: <499516.29645.qm at web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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>>My boyfriend and I are planning on hiking the PCT with our first stop being
>>independence. Basically we just need a ride from the airport to sequoia
>>national park. We are taking our flight from New York
>>on May 12th at 7:50 am and arriving
>>at 10:38 am in Fresno.
>>Ohh also I was wondering, this has nothing to do with the transportation, but,
>>does anyone have advice on what to do to prevent knee pain? I had surgery
>>on my meniscus twice, I still run and its fine, it just gets sore now and
>>then. I have a feeling that with this long hike that I need to do a
>>little extra for it. Should I wear a knee brace? Should I take
>>certain vitamins? My mom suggested MSM,
>>but I wanted advice from real hikers :).
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Staci
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:42:56 -0700
>From: RJ Lewis <karmagurl at cox.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] Garmin Oregon 400t - was Garmin GPS maps with PCT
> Shown?
>To: Will M <jalan04 at gmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <49F3A000.7030001 at cox.net>
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>I have an Oregon 400t and have no problems reading it outside at all.
>The screen has a matte finish which helps with the glare of the sun. It
>also has a decent set of maps in it, but you can add more if you choose
>to. So far, I'm happy with it.
> I also have a Garmin Legend (the blue one), one that I have owned for
>some 7 odd years now. It serves its purpose well, for what it is, but I
>refuse to purchase hundreds of dollars of maps to upgrade it at this
>point....but....I may be willing to part with it, if someone is
>interested.......for a reasonable price even. ;-) It's updated and works
>great...looks nearly like new,(the face isn't all scratched up) and has
>its original serial cable, etc with it. PM me off list please if
>interested. =)
>
>Soul Sista
>
>
>
>Will M wrote:
>
>
>>I was thinking about getting a gps too. You may be tempted to buy the
>>garmin Oregon but before you do, check it out outside. The screen cannot be
>>seen very easilyn daylight. I have heard good things about the 60CSX
>>though. In the end I opted to go without and rely on map and compass.
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Be wary of any maps that show the PCT on them. Unless they map is
>>>specifically for the PCT the trail will not be drawn closely enough to hike
>>>by and the trail may have been rerouted since the map was drawn. I also
>>>found that different scales of maps show the trail in different locations.
>>>
>>>I have been working with gps traces for several long trails and have come
>>>to
>>>the conclusion that current gps's cannot hold enough data to show the trail
>>>details well enough to hike with. The only exception is if you can draw a
>>>shape and load it onto your gps. I haven't done that yet, but we met a
>>>pct2007 hiker who had done that.
>>>
>>>I have been able to load several hundred miles of gps tracks onto my Garmin
>>>60csx with good detail. But before you reach the end of the track you need
>>>to find another computer to load the next piece of the trail onto the gps.
>>>
>>>
>>>As far as loading maps - get a gps that has a micro-sd card. You can load
>>>maps for the whole USA onto one card. The gpx will load the maps from the
>>>card when turned on. You'll still have plenty of room to save tracks and
>>>lots more.
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>www GottaWalk com
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Mary Kwart" <mkwart at gci.net>
>>>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:50 PM
>>>Subject: [pct-l] Garmin GPS maps with PCT shown?
>>>
>>>
>>>Howdy:
>>>
>>>I am considering buying a new GPS unit. I have used a Garmin 3+ for 10
>>>years
>>>but it doesn't have the download capacity for maps that I need. I have two
>>>questions: What kind of GPS are people on the trail using (if any) and is
>>>there any downloadable map that actually has the PCT on it.
>>>
>>>I am downloading maps from the Garmin mapsource disc, but it is extremely
>>>tedious to find the right topos because the PCT is not on the topos (I have
>>>only looked at the Section A topos so far).
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Fireweed
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>Message: 7
>Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:57:35 -0700
>From: Danny Wormington <airecrew at netzero.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] Compass as related to the Garmin discussion
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I don't think that the good old compass should be discounted when
>discussing trail maps and trip planning. To take azimuth and
>back-azimuth readings pre-supposes that you have a very good idea of
>your surroundings, that you recognise distant peaks and landmarks in
>order to find your position. It is always good to know where you are.
>You can also identify distant landmarks using the compass and map. It
>doesn't take batteries (though I am confident that there are some
>computer geek models that do) so even if your electronic devices conk
>out you have it for a backup.
>
>Danny Wormington
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:25:50 -0700
>From: Claudia <iclaudius1 at verizon.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] Empty water cache
>To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>We hiked down to Scissors Crossing last night,the water cache here is
>completely empty. Hansel & Gretel
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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Hi Folks,
I picked up a a couple guys at the corner of Hwy 78 and S-2(San Felipe
creek , south of Warner springs.)
Waiting for a bus.
There is only a bus on friday morning about 7:30 a.m.
You may need an appt. for that.
We do have a guy who will take you to Julian or other points, for a
small fee.
760-765-3351 ask for 'larry' to call you back.
Or hitch a ride to julian about 13 miles. west.
Good luck everyone.
Mr. Julian Borrego
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