[pct-l] Poopy Rocks?

[Kathi]

So, while we are on this lovely discussion I have had a question for 
quite some time but have never had a nice way to ask it. When packing 
out your used tp you put it in a separate container... easy enough. But 
in bear country where you are supposed to pack all "smellables" in a 
bear canister this should be included I would assume since bears are 
attracted to it. I certainly don't like the idea of putting my used tp 
in with my food no matter how well sealed it is. What do others do?
Kathi

Donna Saufley wrote:
> I've tried rocks and leaves, and they work in a jam (no pun intended).
> Personally, I prefer wet wipes for the cleanliness they provide.  Sweat,
> germs, and friction are not a good combination, at least not for me, and I
> much prefer being clean.  I use a "Wag Bag" to carry out my used wipes --
> not the part with the chemical in it where you would actually do your
> business, but the bag you're supposed to throw it away in.  It's opaque, and
> seals nicely. It folds up neatly and is discreet and odorless.  The wipes
> dry out and weigh less than they did wet. Hey, it makes me more comfortable,
> so I don't mind carrying the tiny bit of weight.
>
> The Wag Bag is now required on the Whitney Portal Trail, though you have to
> actually capture and carry out your feces on that one.  They've removed the
> portable toilets, and there are just too many people, even with strict
> permitting regulations, to allow the poor hygiene habits people exhibit
> (yes, even PCT hikers).  I'll never forget going around a large rock to dig
> my cat hole, only to find that someone else, someone very large but not a
> bear, hadn't bothered to do the same.  
>
> L-Rod
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:21 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Poopy Rocks?
>
> I would be extremely upset were I to come across a rock smeared with  
> human waste. I don't care if it comes with the outward bound seal of  
> approval. That is just disgusting and wrong. It's not like poop is  
> buried deep and covered in plastic like in a landfill. It will  
> degrade with the few inches of duff covering it that most people use.
>
> The only reason people find other people's poop and TP is because a  
> lot of people are concentrated in small areas, either around the  
> trail or in campsites. The only time on the PCT I ever found  
> anybody's TP was either near trailheads (I assume those people are  
> not thru-hikers) or near Yosemite. Another reason stealth camping is  
> good. I usually had to go while on the move.
>
> I know many women will use TP for number 1. Instead of that, I  
> recommend carrying a small squeeze bottle and a small scrap of cloth.  
> Hose yourself off and dry with the cloth. Store the cloth where  
> sunlight will kill the germs while you hike.
>
> Where I live I do not think mule ears will grow. But something called  
> lambs ears will grow. I wonder how many acres of those I would need  
> to grow to meet my needs? Would it be cost-effective considering a  
> lot of water is needed for lambs ears? Is there a drought-tolerant  
> alternative? I suppose if I went with native Santa Barbara plants,  
> maybe yerba santa, white sage or chamise would work.
>
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