[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 HELP HELP HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING (Ralph Alcorn)
2. Re: Towing Car (Hiker97)
3. Gate 3 Cache (Tom Aterno)
4. LA Mountain Weather (Tom Aterno)
5. "Thruhike" 2009 (Christian)
6. Re: "Thruhike" 2009 (Greg Hardwick)
7. Re: "Thruhike" 2009 (Andrea Dinsmore)
8. Stic Pic (katherine becksvoort)
9. Re: Stic Pic (Tom Aterno)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:26:02 -0700
From: "Ralph Alcorn" <rbalcorn at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I've parked in the small area north of 58 recently from about 6am to 3pm and
didn't get any ticket or warning. Also I've observed cars parked there at
other times without tickets.
I was there on foot a few days ago, and noticed a white "official" looking
car in the area south of 58, parked facing the railroad tracks, with someone
sitting in the car. That car was still there when I drove back after
hitching to my car at the Tehachapi Willow Springs trailhead. My speculation
is that those two areas are railroad property, and the white car contained
someone doing some sort of inspection of the trains, which were going by
frequently.
--
Ralph Alcorn
http://www.backpack45.com/pct.html
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:40:50 -0700
From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Towing Car
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: pbailey at webuniverse.com, carolwbruno at yahoo.com
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Pieces writes: Questions raised by this incident: 1. Who posted the "complaint?"
--------------------------------------------
Switchback replies: It is obvious who filed the complaint. It was the towing
company, so they could make some money. A dirty trick, but probably true. If
it was someone else, I bet they are in on the scam and get a kickback from the
towing company. I wonder if leaving a note on the dash about being a PCT Hiker
with a cell phone number would be okay to do. Of course, you now have to carry
a cell phone, but on a section hike I do not think that is a big deal. This
whole thing smells of a rotten trick.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:04:04 -0700
From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Gate 3 Cache
To: AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net
Cc: 'pct-l' MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>, n7rr at pocketmail.com
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AsABat,
There is approximately 20 gallons at Gate 3 cache between Sissors
Crossing and Barrel Springs. Weather was great this weekend for this
desert section, 70 deg F high today. Saw 4 thru hikers on the trail.
They are still coming, so water sources still need to be updated.
Tom KI6ASP
The Incredible Bulk
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:50:52 -0700
From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] LA Mountain Weather
To: 'pct-l' MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Monty Tam
<montytam at gmail.com>
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Hikers, the following, from the NWS, is weather for LA county
mountains, including Wrightwood. Looks like weather will be improving
Memorial Day going forward.
The Incredible Bulk
This Afternoon: A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy,
with a high near 47. South southwest wind around 10 mph.
Tonight: A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a
low around 29. West southwest wind between 10 and 13 mph.
Memorial Day: Partly sunny, with a high near 54. West northwest wind
between 9 and 13 mph.
Monday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 30. West southwest wind
between 6 and 9 mph.
Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 63. South southwest wind
between 6 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 18 mph.
Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 35.
Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 66.
Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 34.
Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 68.
Thursday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 39.
Friday: Sunny, with a high near 72.
Friday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 40.
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 74.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:55:53 +0200
From: Christian <krampenschiesser at freenet.de>
Subject: [pct-l] "Thruhike" 2009
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Hi all!
Excuse my bad English, but I'm a German student who care more for
content but form ;)
I'm planning to thruhike the PCT in 2009.
I want to start in April and look how far I get.
Therefore I'm currently going to plan the trip.
Please look over the stuff I'll post now and tell me if I'm wrong or
forgot something.
Thanks for your help!
Official stuff:
I need a visa to stay for 7 months in the USA.
I need a visa to enter Canada via the PCT.
I need a campfire permit for California.
I need the thru-permit from the pcta homepage.
Is that "all"?
Supplies:
I plan to resupply at the stores on the way.
On my trips I usually carry food for 10-14 days.
I think this is enough time to get to the next town.
But as I've never been in the USA I don't know what you can buy
there(fast food country ;)
I usually take noodles dried tomatoes and onions as well as flour, dried
yeast and salami/pepperoni and some brown bread.
On the route I usually collect plants and mushrooms to get something fresh.
So could I get the stuff mentioned above in American shops or are there
replacements/alternatives?
Travel:
Well I'll fly to San Diego and then take a bus ride to Campo.
I think there shouldn't be many difficulties.
The return flight will be done spontaneously.
Maps:
Am I right that the 3 books about southern/northern California and
Oregon/Washington include maps?
Which resolution do they have? Is there a UTM grid?
The data book contains information about the towns?
Because I can't find a specific town book.
Bears:
In which parks do I need a bear-can?
Well I think this is all that comes in my mind in the first place.
If I forgot anything important please write!
cheers
Christian L?hnert
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:05:39 -0700
From: "Greg Hardwick" <gahardwick at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] "Thruhike" 2009
To: "Christian" <krampenschiesser at freenet.de>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Going Mexico to Canada might be a better option due to the seasons. Going
south early, you may have a lot of snow.
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Hi all!
Excuse my bad English, but I'm a German student who care more for
content but form ;)
I'm planning to thruhike the PCT in 2009.
I want to start in April and look how far I get.
Therefore I'm currently going to plan the trip.
Please look over the stuff I'll post now and tell me if I'm wrong or
forgot something.
Thanks for your help!
Official stuff:
I need a visa to stay for 7 months in the USA.
I need a visa to enter Canada via the PCT.
I need a campfire permit for California.
I need the thru-permit from the pcta homepage.
Is that "all"?
Supplies:
I plan to resupply at the stores on the way.
On my trips I usually carry food for 10-14 days.
I think this is enough time to get to the next town.
But as I've never been in the USA I don't know what you can buy
there(fast food country ;)
I usually take noodles dried tomatoes and onions as well as flour, dried
yeast and salami/pepperoni and some brown bread.
On the route I usually collect plants and mushrooms to get something fresh.
So could I get the stuff mentioned above in American shops or are there
replacements/alternatives?
Travel:
Well I'll fly to San Diego and then take a bus ride to Campo.
I think there shouldn't be many difficulties.
The return flight will be done spontaneously.
Maps:
Am I right that the 3 books about southern/northern California and
Oregon/Washington include maps?
Which resolution do they have? Is there a UTM grid?
The data book contains information about the towns?
Because I can't find a specific town book.
Bears:
In which parks do I need a bear-can?
Well I think this is all that comes in my mind in the first place.
If I forgot anything important please write!
cheers
Christian L?hnert
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:23:28 -0700
From: "Andrea Dinsmore" <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] "Thruhike" 2009
To: Christian <krampenschiesser at freenet.de>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Have you read Yogi's guide book for the PCT ??
PCT MOM
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Christian <krampenschiesser at freenet.de>
wrote:
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> Hi all!
> Excuse my bad English, but I'm a German student who care more for
> content but form ;)
> I'm planning to thruhike the PCT in 2009.
> I want to start in April and look how far I get.
> Therefore I'm currently going to plan the trip.
> Please look over the stuff I'll post now and tell me if I'm wrong or
> forgot something.
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Official stuff:
> I need a visa to stay for 7 months in the USA.
> I need a visa to enter Canada via the PCT.
> I need a campfire permit for California.
> I need the thru-permit from the pcta homepage.
> Is that "all"?
>
> Supplies:
> I plan to resupply at the stores on the way.
> On my trips I usually carry food for 10-14 days.
> I think this is enough time to get to the next town.
> But as I've never been in the USA I don't know what you can buy
> there(fast food country ;)
> I usually take noodles dried tomatoes and onions as well as flour, dried
> yeast and salami/pepperoni and some brown bread.
> On the route I usually collect plants and mushrooms to get something fresh.
> So could I get the stuff mentioned above in American shops or are there
> replacements/alternatives?
>
> Travel:
> Well I'll fly to San Diego and then take a bus ride to Campo.
> I think there shouldn't be many difficulties.
> The return flight will be done spontaneously.
>
> Maps:
> Am I right that the 3 books about southern/northern California and
> Oregon/Washington include maps?
> Which resolution do they have? Is there a UTM grid?
> The data book contains information about the towns?
> Because I can't find a specific town book.
>
> Bears:
> In which parks do I need a bear-can?
>
> Well I think this is all that comes in my mind in the first place.
> If I forgot anything important please write!
> cheers
> Christian L?hnert
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:17:32 -0400
From: katherine becksvoort <kabecksv at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Stic Pic
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Hello from the trail. I'm at Hikertown tonight, and it sure is cold. I'm
inquiring as to where/how I can get my hands on a stic pic, that were handed out
at Kickoff. I didn't get one and have been seeing them on the trail here...would
love to get one. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
MoonPie
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:31:51 -0700
From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stic Pic
To: kbecksvoort at gmail.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Moonpie, go to http://www.thestickpic.com/index.html .
Tom KI6ASP
The Incredible Bulk
On May 25, 2008, at 6:17 PM, katherine becksvoort wrote:
>
> Hello from the trail. I'm at Hikertown tonight, and it sure is cold.
> I'm inquiring as to where/how I can get my hands on a stic pic, that
> were handed out at Kickoff. I didn't get one and have been seeing
> them on the trail here...would love to get one. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> MoonPie
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 06:17:45 -0400
From: grandpazoe at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 5, Issue 64
help.........HELP@@!!@
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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE DELETE GRANDPAZOE FROM YOUR MAILING LIST.? GAREY MEABON PASSED AWAY
NOVEMBER 13, 2000.?? PLEASE DO THIS IMMEDIATELY.
THANK YOU...............
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING (Shutterbug steiner)
2. SAR Called on PCT Deep Creek (Shutterbug steiner)
3. Re: weather from the trail (Kent Spring)
4. Re: Jumping across the Grand Canyon (Pea Hicks)
5. Re: Jumping across the Grand Canyon (Tortoise)
6. Re: Jumping across the Grand Canyon (OMullis)
7. weather from the trail Mt. Waterman ski resort, Newcombs
Ranch, (mattjolley at comcast.net)
8. Grand Canyon (Bighummel)
9. Bear canister requirements in 2009 (Jim "PITA" Payne)
10. Re: hanging food vs. bear cannisters (Steel-Eye)
11. Re: TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING (Trail90)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shutterbug steiner <shutterbugg313 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING
To: pct <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I have left beater cars on the North side of 58 twice for 3-4 days each time
with no incident.
SB
Phil Baily <pbaily at webuniverse.net> wrote:
Section E ends and Section F starts in Tehachapi Pass at the Cameron
Road exit from Highway 58. It is a natural place to leave a car at
the beginning or end of a section hike. There is a large level
gravel/dirt area between Cameron Road and the railroad tracks. There
are two gravel/dirt entrances from Cameron Road to this area. There
are old railroad track pieces on the railroad track side of the area
paralleling the real railroad tracks. These appear to provide a
border for a parking area. If you don't like having your car towed,
DO NOT PARK HERE.
Here is how it worked in our case:
We left a car in that area for transportation when we
finished our hike. Within an hour or two, someone filed a "complaint"
with the California Highway Patrol (CHP). The CHP came out the next
day, looked the situation over, tagged the car, and authorized a
towing company to remove the "abandoned" car 72 hours after the time
of the initial complaint. At that time (within an hour or two) the
towing company towed the car. Retrieval of the car meant paying a
$140 towing fee.
Possible complications if you park there:
1. If the car is kept longer, there is also a daily
storage fee.
2. The car must be retrieved by the registered
owner. (A spouse does not qualify.) The CHP can negotiate or order
(It is not clear which.) release of the car once they receive a fax
of a power of attorney from the registered owner.
3. The towing company yard has a sign that lists
hours as: M-F 9-5, Sat, Sun by appointment. There is also a fee for
weekend release of the car.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO PARK HERE.
Questions raised by this incident:
1. Who posted the "complaint?"
2. Would prior notification of the CHP of intent, including
pick-up date, result in avoidance of these events? Would a note on
the dashboard have changed the situation, other than encouraging thieves?
3. Would the situation be any different in the small area
north of Highway 58?
4. Are the same rules applicable, if someone wants to
enforce things this way, in other trailhead areas with unsigned
apparent parking areas?
5. What about signed areas? After all, similar rules do
apply on city streets and nothing was said about this being private
property. (I do not know whether it is private or public land.)
6. Does anyone know of a nearby area where cars can be left
without this unpleasantness?
If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, I would
appreciate hearing from you. However, I am not trying to encourage
speculation about what the rules might or should be. I have
speculated a lot the last few days, and there are better uses for this forum.
Pieces
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shutterbug steiner <shutterbugg313 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] SAR Called on PCT Deep Creek
To: pct <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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This past Friday SAR was called for a missing female hiker from Wisconsin.
There was some communication errors with her two hiking friends and never made
it to designated camping spot. Apparently the miss communication happened
somewhere around the reroute of the PCT from this Falls Big Bear fires. She was
found at the Deep Creek Hot Springs where she was able to cell phone her family.
There was 4 inches of surprise snow in Running Springs when SAR received that
call.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kent Spring <kjssail at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] weather from the trail
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hi -
I and about 40 other hikers are "stuck" in Wrightwood. We came down the Acorn
Trail yesterday, with about 8 inches of snow on the top (8250 '). We have been
told that someone was rescued from Baden-Powell yesterday, and I know several
people tried to go over, but turned back.
Kent
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:34:56 -0700
From: Pea Hicks <phix at optigan.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jumping across the Grand Canyon
Cc: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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it's always good to check snopes on stuff like this:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/canyonleap.asp
cool photos nonetheless!
girlscout
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:19:44 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jumping across the Grand Canyon
To: Pea Hicks <phix at optigan.com>
Cc: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Fooled me. Still jumping there may risk falling and sliding off the ridge.
can't tell from the foto.
Tortoise
<> He who finishes last, wins! <>
Pea Hicks wrote:
> it's always good to check snopes on stuff like this:
>
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/canyonleap.asp
>
> cool photos nonetheless!
>
> girlscout
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:47:15 -0500
From: "OMullis" <omullis at aircanopy.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jumping across the Grand Canyon
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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That's an old trick-angle photo...
Go here & read about it, including a wider shot that shows it's not as daring as
the first shot makes it appear.
http://rising.blackstar.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&pop=1&page=56&Itemid=32
Happy leaping!
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 04:11:01 +0000
From: mattjolley at comcast.net
Subject: [pct-l] weather from the trail Mt. Waterman ski resort,
Newcombs Ranch,
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Report of 8 inches of snow at 5000 feet Friday afternoon at Newcombs Ranch
So probably 80 miles of trail snow just from mile 350 to mile 430.
"chucknorris" at
http://trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?trailname=6654
Reports the owner opened up Mt. Waterman ski resort Friday night and 14 hikers
stayed.
I am guessing the facilities at the top of the lift were opened, 800 ft
elevation gain? from Hwy2,
since hearsay is "snow cat access".
http://postholer.com/gmap/gmap.php?trail=pct&lat=34.349212&lon=-117.928705&zoom=15&vw=3&
is the bottom of the lift on Hwy2. about 1.5 mile west
from mile 386.5 on Hwy2.
Another resource is about two miles SE of where the PCT leaves Hwy2 at Three
points
Newcombs Ranch on Hwy 2. phone 626.440.1001
http://postholer.com/good%20times has a picture of a hamburger from there on May
20
34.3301 -118.0017
Weather station map at
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/mwmap.php?map=sgx&limit=1&list=1
BIG PINES, CA (BPNC1)
Elev: 6917 ft; Latitude: 34.3789; Longitude: -117.6919
Current time:Sat, 24 May 20:48 pm (PDT)
Most Recent Observation:Sat, 24 May 7:54 pm (PDT)
0.63 inches of precip Saturday.
Matt
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:26:56 -0700
From: Bighummel <bighummel at aol.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Grand Canyon
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Just back from an incredible trip with 24 geologists for 7 days on the water,
amongst the ages of time record and faults and structures and fossils and
crossbeds and pegmatites and shists and gneiss and mines and ruins and wind and
rain and heat and cold and rapids and good, good people.
As any of you who have done this know, words are poor substitutes for
conveyance. The best that I can come up with is;
"This is the library of time, and we, the geologists, are the librarians!"
Greg "Strider" Hummel
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 04:51:27 +0000
From: enyapjr at comcast.net (Jim "PITA" Payne)
Subject: [pct-l] Bear canister requirements in 2009
To: pct-l at backcountry.net (pct-l)
Message-ID:
<052520080451.1432.4838F04F0003726B0000059822155670749D069F0E97020A at comcast.net>
FYI...
I just happened to check one of my bookmarks (Seki food storage) for updates -
it notes a possible MAJOR change in the regs as early as 2009...
Some of us have been saying it was coming 'soon' - looks like it will happen in
2009...
Plan on having/using a bear canister for the Sierra!
See <http://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/bear_bc.htm>...
Happy trails!!!
Jim / "PITA"
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 01:44:30 -0700
From: "Steel-Eye" <chelin at teleport.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] hanging food vs. bear cannisters
To: "Jeffrey Olson" <jolson at olc.edu>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <002e01c8be43$8da81bb0$6533ff04 at DF504N31>
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Once when camping with a "newbie" I was awakened in the middle of the night
by, "HEY, wake up! I think I hear a bear walking around out there!"
In spite of the fact that bears typically sniff, and snort, and shuffle
around I wanted to go back to sleep so I groggily I replied, "I don't think
so. Bears have great big, soft, fuzzy feet. If he was walking around out
there you wouldn't hear a thing."
Mistake. Big mistake -- HUGE! From then on for the rest of the night I
was awakened with, "HEY, wake up. I don't hear anything! There must be a
bear out there!"
Steel-Eye
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Olson" <jolson at olc.edu>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] hanging food vs. bear cannisters
> "The Myths about Bears"
>
> When a bear does appear and you're sleeping with your food remain still
> and observant. Unless your tent rain fly is open you won't see the
> bear. You'll only hear it.
>
> Jeff, just Jeff...
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:29:05 -0700
From: Trail90 <pct-l at mattmaxon.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] TEHACHAPI PASS PARKING WARNING
To: Phil Baily <pbaily at webuniverse.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <483985C0.2000508 at mattmaxon.com>
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Phil Baily wrote:
> There is a large level
> gravel/dirt area between Cameron Road and the railroad tracks. There
> are two gravel/dirt entrances from Cameron Road to this area. There
> are old railroad track pieces on the railroad track side of the area
> paralleling the real railroad tracks. These appear to provide a
> border for a parking area. If you don't like having your car towed,
> DO NOT PARK HERE.
>
>
if you copy and paste the xml below it will show the area you are
describing? (google earth)
It would seem to me to be UPRR property
I'd say UPRR security would be the ones to file a complaint or the CHP
has standing permission to cite and tow vehicles parked there
I'm sorry for your troubles and would suggest you write the CHP and ask
them to forward a letter explaining why you parked there and asking it
be posted no parking - private property yada...yada...yada...
Maybe a "PCT hiker" note on the window would give'em a clue but it's
difficult or a phone # for contacting a spouse.
On the legal end it seems to me the CHP made no attempt to contact the RO
They can get the RO address and phone from the license number
I had parked my motorcycle at Fenner Camp at the locked gate going up to
Vincent Gulch when Hiking the High Desert Trail.
Fenner Camp which is a CDF work Camp using state prison inmates
complained and contacted my home phone, my wife contacted me by cell
phone and I moved the vehicle before it was towed.
Seems to me investigation of the law may yield some results in court to
recover your expenses, but it is Kern County and they are pretty tight
around there... The Judge is probably the Dad, Brother, Cousin of the cop.
Trail90
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<color>ccffffff</color>
<scale>1.2</scale>
<Icon>
<href>http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/kml/shapes/parking_lot.png</href>
</Icon>
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</IconStyle>
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<key>highlight</key>
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</Pair>
</StyleMap>
<Style id="sh_parking_lot">
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<color>ccffffff</color>
<scale>1.4</scale>
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<href>http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/kml/shapes/parking_lot.png</href>
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<hotSpot x="0.5" y="0" xunits="fraction" yunits="fraction"/>
</IconStyle>
<ListStyle>
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</Style>
<Placemark>
<name>Area described </name>
<description>Is the the area you where parked?
This would be Union Pacific Railroad property IMO</description>
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<latitude>35.09853706796218</latitude>
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<heading>-15.15488861860192</heading>
<altitudeMode>relativeToGround</altitudeMode>
</LookAt>
<styleUrl>#msn_parking_lot</styleUrl>
<Point>
<coordinates>-118.2940205815603,35.09824569407722,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
</Document>
</kml>
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