[pct-l] debating

Patrick Beggan meta474 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 5 10:06:22 CST 2008


Yes, but the two discussions that were referenced never broke down  
into that sort of thing. I was part of the alcohol wipes one and I  
thought we kept it quite clean.


On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Greg Kesselring wrote:
> Well, there's debating in a civilized way where the participants  
> discuss the ISSUES and keep their discussion on the issues.  And  
> then there's debating in a rude and disrespectful way where the  
> participants resort to name calling and other ways of attacking the  
> PERSON, a.k.a. character assassination, basically resorting to this  
> kind of logic:  Because you don't see it my way, you must be an  
> _______  (fill in the blank here with the most derisive name you can  
> think of.)  The latter way of "debating" is consider by many to be  
> rude behavior.
>
> Greg
>
> Patrick Beggan wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I think its because we like to have debates on here that people
>> are rude.
>>
>> you know, if we're rude and we only have two debates... Man, I bet
>> those presidential candidates act like SAVAGES.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:32 AM, jeff.singewald at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Kim,
>>>
>>> I trust your confidence and faith is genuine, but keep in mind, each
>>> year, we all share the same feeling, our thru-hiker family will be
>>> grateful and charming.  I know I felt that way in 2006 and for the
>>> most part it was.  However, if you go back in the listserve archives
>>> you would think that the 2006 crowd had more than its share of "bad
>>> apples".
>>>
>>> My guess is that less than 25% of the class of 2008 even knows about
>>> this list-serve so it is difficult to really identify the behavior
>>> of a group as a whole based on what we see on this list serve.
>>>
>>> I hope you are right, however it seems that as more and more people
>>> come to hike this trail, more and more reports of "bad apples" are
>>> reported.  It seems as though over the years there has developed a
>>> stronger "sense of entitlement" amongst the thru-hiker crowd.
>>>
>>> Still haven't figured out why this true, but I am sure it has
>>> something to do with either alcohol  wipes or water caches (tic).
>>>
>>> I send my best wishes for an incredible adventure and hope to meet
>>> many of the 2008 crowd at ADZ or along the trail in NorCal.
>>>
>>> Elevator - PCT2006
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: dusterbuddy at comcast.net
>>> I have the up most confidence (faith) that all the '08 hikers will
>>> be very great full and charming. I know that I am amazed at the
>>> spirit of all the trail angels that help out perfect strangers. I
>>> know i will be on the trial next year and cant wait to be surrounded
>>> by all this generosity.
>>>
>>> again thank you
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: "greg jacobs" <pcthiker08 at gmail.com>
>>> Lets hope the 08 group respects the trail angles who are going to
>>> open there homes and property to us this comming season, thanks to
>>> all of you guys in advance and cya on the trail
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
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