[pct-l] Bear Canister "required" areas on PCT in the Sierra...

[G. Lowe aka Wheeew]

Thank you Craig, for saying what I was thinking.  I too would like to know where the statistics came from.  Actually, I was thinking the same thing about people.  If you spread them out in their natural habitat, instead of stacking them all on top of each other in the non-sustainable, over-populated, heavily polluted cities, I doubt there'd be enough "natural habitat" to sustain us.  So who wants to volunteer to go first???  Sorry folks, there's just too many of us.  Open season.......!!!!!

Bears at campsites, birds and deer fed in our backyards, it's all the same.  And IMO it says nothing about a lack of natural habitat.......and more about "people" habits......Of course any animal is going to take the "path of least resistance" and go for the relatively "easy" (and cheesy) food.

My thoughts go from this to adult children that stay too long at Mom and Dad's home.....you know the ones........35 years old and still sponging off the folks......therefore no skills to survive on their own.......but hey, that would be WAAAYYYYY OT!!!!!

Wheeew

P.S.  I have never found a bear to be curious about the smells I give off.......just for the record.........

Craig Stanton <craigstanton at mac.com> wrote: Whoa, whoa, whoa,

  Who said there were too many bears? Who said they aren't  
sustainable on the available (natural) resources? Aren't they just  
curious about the smells we give off and then find we've got better  
snacks they they do? I for one do not advocate a bear cull to make it  
easier for hikers to go through the sierras. Carry a canister, take  
no food, sleep at bear-boxes, I don't mind. But please don't shoot  
the bears so we can encroach on them more.

~Craig



On 3/02/2008, at 6:52 PM, Bob Bankhead wrote:

> The problem - in one man's opinion - is one of too many bears in  
> too small an area. The natural food supply therein is insufficient  
> to feed them all.
>
> Whenever there are not enough resources (in this case, food) to  
> support an established population, that population must either find  
> a new food source in the area (in this case, people food), relocate  
> to another area that has the needed resources, or die off until it  
> reaches a level that can be sustained by the available resource  
> supply. That's nature's way and it has worked since life began.  
> When man tries to fool around with that natural balance, all he  
> does is cause trouble.
>
> So, I'll take the politically incorrect (but ecologically sound)  
> position: immediately start a massive reduction (kill or relocate)  
> of the Black Bear population in the Sierras. Reduce that population  
> to the level that their natural habitat can actually support (aka  
> "the wild state") without the dependence on people food. Add an  
> economic benefit by opening the hunting season and let license fees  
> help fund the reduction. Other state and federal land managers  
> routinely selectively cull wildlife populations to prevent mass  
> starvation, and adjust the lengths of hunting and fishing seasons  
> or the number of animals allowed to be taken when needed to  
> maintain a healthy population level.
>
> THEN you can really regulate, enforce, and penalize people who do  
> not properly store or handle food in the area. No free passes. No  
> tiny slap-on-the-wrist type fines. Make it hurt. This will help to  
> "motivate" compliance.
>
> Now I seriously doubt that any bureaucrat or politician is going to  
> risk ending their career by defying the animal rights activists and  
> outraging the public by suggesting, let alone actually doing, such  
> a thing in the Sierras. It is far easier to control, regulate, and  
> fine the people than to actually control the bears.
>
> End rant.
>
>
> Wandering Bob
>
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