[pct-l] Scott & Joe controversy

[Reinhold Metzger]

LORD!!!!.....I'm loosing my hair over this.
Why do some people have such a hard time understanding this?

If you hike the PCT just to hike it, hike it any way you want to.
Take the easy route, go around the mountain instead of over the mountain.
Take alternate routes, go the round about way or take the Hwy.
It's your hike, you can hike it any way you want.

But, if you are trying to set a record for a particular trail you should 
follow that trail.
An asterisk would be more warranted had they taken alternate trails or 
easier round about trails.
What better conformity than everybody following the actual PCT route can 
you ask for?
That is exactly what Scott & Joe did, follow the PCT.

Come on guys, this is not Rocket Science, try to understand this.

JMT Reinhold
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kcristler wrote:
> Good afternoon Reinhold,
>            I totally believe inHYOH. Speed hiking is very cool. But. 
> When you set out to break a record, whether you are Ben Johnson, 
> Marion Jones, or the woman who cut miles off the Boston marathon, you 
> must follow rules.
> The hike is great. Scott is an amazing type A person. Increwdible. ( 
> sorry for the fuddism). But if they set a record , it must have an 
> asterisk, much like Roger Maris, poor soul. They are hiking their own 
> hike, but they are setting records every other record attempter must 
> best. Thus, the need for rules and conformity.
>          Most sincerely,
>                    Kerry, covina, ca
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinhold Metzger" 
> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:37 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Scott & Joe update
>
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>> Kerry,
>> You have a point, everybody has a right to disagree.
>> There is a difference, however, between disagreeing and grumbling and 
>> criticizing.
>> No hiker deserves his hike to be criticized by other hikers.
>> Just like there being more than one opinion there are more ways than 
>> one to hike the trail.
>> It has been my observation that every time a hiker like Scott, Joe, 
>> Brian or Michael goes on a
>> speed hike it evokes a lot of criticism from a certain segment on 
>> this list who can not
>> understand why anybody in his right mind would want to speed through 
>> a pristine wilderness and
>> how they can not possibly enjoy their hike.
>> In my mind they are hypocrites for thinking their way of hiking is 
>> the only proper way to hike
>> and enjoy the trail.
>> They embrace the HYOH principle but only if it's based on their own 
>> hiking criteria.
>>
>> Other hikers have hiked through trail closures, but the ones that get 
>> slammed and criticized are
>> the speed hikers because their speed hiking is frowned upon by those 
>> certain elements....you can
>> slam me if you want to....but if you slam my buddies, I will speak up.
>> That is the only reason Scott and Joe have been singled out for 
>> criticism.
>>
>> STILL SEEMS LIKE SOUR GRAPES TO ME.....you know, short ones envy tall 
>> ones.....slow ones envy
>> fast ones.
>>
>> JMT Reinhold
>> Your slow, short trail companion.
>>
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>>
>> Kerry wrote:
>> rheinhold, you are a backbone of this list. But it is wrong to call 
>> people
>> who disagree with you "grumblers." Nobody comes down on you for being 
>> the
>> Scott and joe marching and chowder society. Sour grapes are not 
>> involved.
>> Individuality is. There is always more than one opinion, yours (or 
>> mine) is
>> certainly not always correct.
>>           Kerry,
>>              Covina Ca
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinhold Metzger" 
>> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net 
>> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
>> To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net 
>> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:33 AM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Scott & Joe update
>>
>>
>>> / Joe has wrenched his knee, but they are still getting their miles and
>> />/ plan on reaching Stevens Pass Wednesday (tomorrow)  between 4-6 
>> PM and
>> />/ the monument the evening of August 18 around 8 PM.
>> />/ For those still grumbling about them hiking through a fire 
>> closure be
>> />/ reminded that they encountered fire fighters and Rangers
>> />/ in the closed area, were not issued any citations but were given 
>> the OK
>> />/ and blessings to continue.
>> />/ If the authorities gave their OK and blessings to continue they must
>> />/ have felt the conditions were safe enough to do so.
>> />/ The authorities have the last word and they have spoken......so 
>> what is
>> />/ the problem?
>> />/ Could the problem be sour grapes?
>> />/ I say swallow those sour grapes and join Andrea's  party tomorrow at
>> />/ Stevens Pass or join them at the Monument on the 18th
>> />/ to congratulate them for their tremendous achievement.
>> />/
>> />/ JMT Reinhold
>> />/ _______________________________________________
>> />
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