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> From: pct-l-request at backcountry.net> Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43> To: pct-l at backcountry.net> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:40:27 -0500> > Send Pct-l mailing list submissions to> pct-l at backcountry.net> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> pct-l-request at backcountry.net> > You can reach the person managing the list at> pct-l-owner at backcountry.net> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Pct-l digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Solio solar charger question (Laura Fox)> 2. Re: Solio solar charger question (Patrick Beggan)> 3. Re: Solio solar charger question (AsABat)> 4. Re: Solio solar charger question (Jason Schripsema)> 5. Re: Solio solar charger question (Steve Sergeant)> 6. Re: Solio solar charger question (Patrick Beggan)> 7. Re: Solio solar charger question (Jason Schripsema)> 8. Re: Solio solar charger question (Laura Fox)> 9. Re: Solio solar charger question (taterno at cox.net)> 10. Re: Solio solar charger question (AsABat)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:54:42 -0400> From: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>> Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <C7D2A580-A54B-4EE8-A256-5AB0A1F24376 at yale.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed> > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http:// > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php) > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing > something?> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:07:08 -0700> From: Patrick Beggan <meta474 at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>, pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <926FD6E1-7EA4-4F57-B297-56DC1BB94325 at gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > I take it you're using an SLR, Laura? I'm bringing my digital rebel > and I have a similar problem (proprietary Li-ion battery and wall > charger). I've heard there're ways around it but they involve buying a > new charger. Hopefully someone knows more than I do.> > As of right now I'm just going to charge them wherever I can find a > socket in town. I spent some time backpacking in colorado and you'd be > surprised where you can find a two-pronged socket -- I've even seen > soda machines plugged into them, although I thought they used a bigger > plug. You better believe I unplugged that soda machine, charged my > battery, then plugged it back in. :P> > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Laura Fox wrote:> > > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a> > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into> > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This> > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing> > something?> > _______________________________________________> > Pct-l mailing list> > Pct-l at backcountry.net> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:09:23 -0700> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: "'Laura Fox'" <laura.fox at yale.edu>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>> Message-ID: <002401c899cd$9582c5a0$6501010a at PC8>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert> the 3VDC to 120VAC. > > Some ideas:> > 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.> > 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.> > 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take> some creative reengineering.> > 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure. > > 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be> charged from USB.> > I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my> instructions and blow up your camera <grin, but hopefully others have> some better ideas.> > AsABat> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: Laura Fox [mailto:laura.fox at yale.edu]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:55 PM> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net> > Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> > > > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a> > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into> > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This> > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing> > something?> > _______________________________________________> > Pct-l mailing list> > Pct-l at backcountry.net> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > > > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1366 - Release Date:> 4/8/2008> > 5:03 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT)> From: Jason Schripsema <solartrix at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>, pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <440366.11421.qm at web90401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > > laura, i've thought about this too (i shoot a 5d mostly), the problem is that your wall charger runs off ac and the solio only produces dc. so you'd need to convert dc to ac and then plug in your charger. > > what you want to look for is some sort of car charger that will charge the canon battery straight from dc. i haven't found this, but then again, i haven't looked very hard either. i think you may have to carry your wall charger and "bum" an outlet here and there on your supply stops. :-s> > > Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu> wrote: Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http:// > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php) > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing > something?> _______________________________________________> Pct-l mailing list> Pct-l at backcountry.net> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:14:45 -0700> From: Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, 'Laura Fox' <laura.fox at yale.edu>> Message-ID: <p0624080fc421ac4dbf85@[67.113.155.132]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"> > At 4:09 PM -0700 4/8/08, AsABat wrote:> >5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be> >charged from USB.> >> >I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my> >instructions and blow up your camera <grin>, but hopefully others have> >some better ideas.> > If I had the opportunity to do a major through hike of 400-plus miles > or more than a month out, I would make sure I was taking a camera > that used non-proprietary batteries such as AA or AAA.> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:21:39 -0700> From: Patrick Beggan <meta474 at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <BA1BCEE4-58AA-4A37-84DF-76E8F551E281 at gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > There are no SLRs that use AA or AAA batteries. If you want to take an > SLR, you have to use the batteries you have to use.> > You could of course use this to segue into the old argument about "you > can't make a thru-hike about photography and the hike both" but I > think that's nonsense. If you want to carry an SLR, if you want a > camera that requires a little more work to charge, then that's all up > to you.> > Of course, I'm bias because I'm doing this exact same thing. None the > less, as everyone seems to say around here (and yet not necessarily > believe I think), Hike Your Own Hike.> > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Steve Sergeant wrote:> > > At 4:09 PM -0700 4/8/08, AsABat wrote:> >> 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be> >> charged from USB.> >>> >> I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of > >> my> >> instructions and blow up your camera <grin>, but hopefully others > >> have> >> some better ideas.> >> > If I had the opportunity to do a major through hike of 400-plus miles> > or more than a month out, I would make sure I was taking a camera> > that used non-proprietary batteries such as AA or AAA.> > _______________________________________________> > Pct-l mailing list> > Pct-l at backcountry.net> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:24:44 -0700 (PDT)> From: Jason Schripsema <solartrix at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>, 'Laura Fox' <laura.fox at yale.edu>,> pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <938509.53604.qm at web90407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > > hmmmm..... i am cursed as being technical. i'd say stay away from 1-4 below unless you really know what you're doing... even then, maybe still stay away... :-)> > > AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote: The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert> the 3VDC to 120VAC. > > Some ideas:> > 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.> > 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.> > 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take> some creative reengineering.> > 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure. > > 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be> charged from USB.> > I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my> instructions and blow up your camera > some better ideas.> > AsABat> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: Laura Fox [mailto:laura.fox at yale.edu]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:55 PM> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net> > Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> > > > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a> > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into> > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This> > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing> > something?> > _______________________________________________> > Pct-l mailing list> > Pct-l at backcountry.net> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > > > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1366 - Release Date:> 4/8/2008> > 5:03 PM> > > _______________________________________________> Pct-l mailing list> Pct-l at backcountry.net> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:31:32 -0400> From: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: pct-l at backcountry.net> Message-ID: <9CCFBAEC-2F4D-4532-85EF-C62CB3498C1A at yale.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed> > D'oh! I hated the electricity & magnetism portion of my high school > physics class. AC, DC ... what does some rock band have to do with > my camera battery??> > Oh well. I guess it looks like I could get a car charger for my > camera battery, then the car cigarette lighter attachment for the > Solio, and with that mess it would work. But that's probably not be > worth the expense and weight.> > Also I could get a camera that takes AAs, but I am too picky about > cameras for that.> > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:09 PM, AsABat wrote:> > > The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.> > As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert> > the 3VDC to 120VAC.> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:37:27 -0400> From: <taterno at cox.net>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>> Message-ID: <20080408193727.N2XJZ.227906.imail at fed1rmwml05>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > Laura,> What is the output DC voltage of the charger? You can find this on the label on the charger. Depending on its output, I may be able to rig something up to charge the battery. But beware, as AsABat states, the charge may not shut off when it should using the method. > > Bring your camera and charger out here and I will do my best to make it work. What is the model number of your Canon camera, and is there a model number on the battery?> > > Tom KI6ASP> > > > > > ---- Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu> wrote: > > =============> Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http:// > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php) > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged > into a regular two-pronged wall socket. I have a Canon camera with a > proprietary battery and a wall charger. The battery can't be charged > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger. It > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into > the Solio. The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet. This > seems odd to me. Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing > something?> _______________________________________________> Pct-l mailing list> Pct-l at backcountry.net> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:43:33 -0700> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question> To: "'Jason Schripsema'" <solartrix at yahoo.com>, "'Laura Fox'"> <laura.fox at yale.edu>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>> Message-ID: <002701c899d2$5b4ffdd0$6501010a at PC8>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Actually number 1 isn't bad if the charger and the wall cord are two> separate parts. I guess I wasn't clear enough. I have several chargers> for radios and phones where the cord actually unplugs from the charger.> I can then move the charger to the car by using a 12-volt adapter.> > Number 2 presumes Canon makes a 12-volt charger for the camera.> > I agree, numbers 3 and 4 are in the "don't try this at home" category.> > AsABat> > > -----Original Message-----> > hmmmm..... i am cursed as being technical. i'd say stay away from 1-4> below unless you really know what you're doing... even then, maybe> still stay away... :-)> > > AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote:> The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert> the 3VDC to 120VAC. > > Some ideas:> > 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.> > 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.> > 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take> some creative reengineering.> > 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure. > > 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be> charged from USB.> > I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my> instructions and blow up your camera > some better ideas.> > > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Pct-l mailing list> Pct-l at backcountry.net> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > > End of Pct-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43> ************************************