[pct-l] PCT DVD torrents

Andrew Kenney akenney187 at ca.rr.com
Sun Nov 11 13:14:46 CST 2007


 
I'm downloading the 2006 ISO and all but one person seems to have their
upload setting either off or super low, like 1k. I'm uploading at 38k.
Whoever is using Mainline is rocking, the others are true leechers with < 1k
upload speeds.  Brick, thanks for uploading the torrents; now team, let's do
our part and (1) raise the upload speeds, and (2) stay online and seed these
files :)

BiscuitWeasel


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Sundowner boots (V Hurst)
   2. No-cook Recipes (Jim Keener)
   3. Re: No-cook Recipes (Randy Forsland)
   4. PCT DVD torrents (Brick Robbins)
   5. Re: PCT DVD torrents (g l)
   6. Re: SoCal openings - BLM land open (AsABat)
   7. USMC Birthday (Jim and/or Ginny Owen)
   8. USMC Birthday & Veterans Day (Reinhold Metzger)
   9. Re: USMC Birthday & Veterans Day (Jerry Goller)
  10. Re: USMC Birthday & Veterans Day (Jim and/or Ginny Owen)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:11:34 -0800 (PST)
From: V Hurst <vjl_47 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sundowner boots
To: Jack Richardson <jackrichardson at adelphia.net>,	pct list
	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Jack,
That would have been about the time I believe that the moved their operation
to an Asian country or moved it back not sure and retailers didn't really
know where the boots were coming from...at least that is the spin/story I
was told...I worked for a major outdoor retailer at the time and then moved
to a small high end type outdoor store and they decided not to carry them
until they were assured in about 2004 or so that they were being made in
Italy again...boot issues can be so aggravating and hike interupting for
sure... I see that you did finish your hike despite the boot issue :) 

My experience with the blisters happened in 1998 (gack a long time ago!!)
and I threw the boots OUT as soon as I got home...luckily I have hiked a few
more miles since then.  Until I discovered the Montrails I ALWAYS had
blisters...managed to move them to the toes and away from the heels so at
least hiking wasn't SO bad.. :) My favorite hike was in a pair of La
Sportiva trail runners and the whole time I kept telling everyone it was
like hiking in slippers..down side was that the soles of my feet hurt cuz I
was carrying too much weight! I'm learning...:) haven't had a blister
since...:) and probably cut a couple of pounds of pack weight since..

vera




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From: Jack Richardson <jackrichardson at adelphia.net>
To: V Hurst <vjl_47 at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 11:07:20 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sundowner boots

vera,


I have a love-hate feeling about them. I used them for my '01 AT thru. There
was no break-in time and I did not get blisters; however the soles kept
caming off the boots.  I was told they were manufactured in Italy and there
was a single time production run problem (glue). They did replace them but
the aggravation took its toll on me. 


tumbleweed2001at 




On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:36 AM, V Hurst wrote:


For a while they were made in Italy? then they sent them to China or
somewhere to be made for a while..they were awful then...then they sent them
back to Italy or somewhere to be made again within the last 2-3 years...now
I haven't checked for  a year or so but this is what I think...soooo they
may be better quality again now...
 
My experience with these are that you either love em or you hate 'em'...I do
NOT like them.. :) can you say mega heel blisters?! ruined my first AT
hike.. :) but I was a newbie then and didn't know how to walk thru the
pain... (kidding I'm sort of kidding:)
 
vera
 
, I talk badly about Vasque Sundowner boots! Specifically
--- I had a pair a number of years ago and the leather cracked after a
relatively short life and with no other problems. I have since heard that
this is a typical occurrence. Maybe we don't know how to care for them
properly, but I have had several pairs of other brand boots without that
problem.

Pieces


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:49:04 -0800
From: Jim Keener <jj at oldmanwalking.net>
Subject: [pct-l] No-cook Recipes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Greetings,

I am looking for no-cook recipes for the trail. Some I can pack and ship
from home, and others I can pick up along the trail.

Thanks,
Jim Keener ( J J )
http://oldmanwalking.net




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:53:14 -0800
From: Randy Forsland <randy_forsland at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] No-cook Recipes
To: Jim Keener <jj at oldmanwalking.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I like 1 part bourbon, 2 parts apple juice, dash of cinnamon...juss kiddin..
 
PP&J on pita bread was about as sophisticated as I got with no cooking
meals..
 
Couchman
> From: jj at oldmanwalking.net> To: pct-l at backcountry.net> Date: Fri, 9 
> Nov 2007 12:49:04 -0800> Subject: [pct-l] No-cook Recipes> > 
> Greetings,> > I am looking for no-cook recipes for the trail. Some I 
> can pack and > ship from home, and others I can pick up along the 
> trail.> > Thanks,> Jim Keener ( J J )> http://oldmanwalking.net> > > 
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:16:11 -0800
From: "Brick Robbins" <brick at fastpack.com>
Subject: [pct-l] PCT DVD torrents
To: "PCT MailingList" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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The bittorent files for the 2003-2006 DVDs are online and ready for
download. We've already got a couple of seeders and several leaches for each
file. The more people in the file swarm (seeders + leaches,) the faster the
download will be for everyone.

To get the files via bittorrent, you will need:
1)a broadband connection (dsl, cable or faster) 2)a bittorent client
program, you can download one from http://www.bittorrent.com/ for free 3)the
torrent file available from http://thepiratebay.org/user/brickster3072

I wonder if the Bittorrent jargon could be applied to the trail community?
Seeders, Leaches, Peers, Clients and Swarms....?

--
Brick Robbins
brick at fastpack.com


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:35:05 -0800 (PST)
From: g l <gailpl2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT DVD torrents
To: Brick Robbins <brick at fastpack.com>, PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I don't know about that, but I'm sure hoping to lose a bit of my broad band
on my thru next year!!!  :-0

Wheeew

Brick Robbins <brick at fastpack.com> wrote: The bittorent files for the
2003-2006 DVDs are online and ready for
download. We've already got a couple of seeders and several leaches
for each file. The more people in the file swarm (seeders + leaches,)
the faster the download will be for everyone.

To get the files via bittorrent, you will need:
1)a broadband connection (dsl, cable or faster)
2)a bittorent client program, you can download one from
http://www.bittorrent.com/ for free
3)the torrent file available from http://thepiratebay.org/user/brickster3072

I wonder if the Bittorrent jargon could be applied to the trail
community? Seeders, Leaches, Peers, Clients and Swarms....?

-- 
Brick Robbins
brick at fastpack.com
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:46:28 -0800
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] SoCal openings - BLM land open
To: <fdumville at earthlink.net>, "'mark v'" <allemande6 at yahoo.com>,
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"The Bureau of Land Management has rescinded the emergency closure of
public lands in the McCain Valley Conservation Area (Boulevard, CA) to
include Cottonwood Campground, Lark Canyon Campground and Lark Canyon
Day Use OHV Area as of Friday, November 9, 2007. 

The following areas are also open for public access: Buck Canyon,
Ranchita CA; Chariot Canyon, Julian CA; Rodriguez Canyon, Julian CA; and
San Felipe Hills, Ranchita CA.

The public is reminded that campfires are still restricted to
campgrounds only."

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/newsroom/2007/november/CDDNews0809_clos
ure_recinded.html





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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:12:19 -0500
From: "Jim and/or Ginny Owen" <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] USMC Birthday
To: at-l at mailman.backcountry.net, cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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It's after midnight here, so it's now officially the Marine Corps Birthday.

To all the Marines out there - Semper Fi and Happy Birthday.

I got this a couple minutes ago so I'll pass it along -

http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/holiday/usmc2007.asp?isc=gdm1113

Walk softly - and carry a big stick,
Jim

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:32:13 -0800
From: "Reinhold Metzger" <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] USMC Birthday & Veterans Day
To: "'PCT-L'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Veterans Day  weekend is here again and it's time to honor our Armed Forces
& Veterans.

I am proud of our troops whichever branch of service or wherever they are.
Thank you for serving your country

JMT Reinhold
Sgt. USMC 1964-1968



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:41:06 -0700
From: "Jerry Goller" <jerrygoller at backpackgeartest.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] USMC Birthday & Veterans Day
To: "'PCT-L'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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232 years of walkin' talkin' hell, death, and destruction 

The meanest fighting force the world has ever seen

Mountain tall, guerrilla tough, United States Marine.

I'd go on with the rest of it but I suspect it's a
bit....ah.....inappropriate for this forum.......   ;o)

Jerry Goller
USMC 1965-1972


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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:32 AM
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Subject: [pct-l] USMC Birthday & Veterans Day

Veterans Day  weekend is here again and it's time to honor our Armed Forces
& Veterans.

I am proud of our troops whichever branch of service or wherever they are.
Thank you for serving your country

JMT Reinhold
Sgt. USMC 1964-1968

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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:29:11 -0500
From: "Jim and/or Ginny Owen" <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] USMC Birthday & Veterans Day
To: jerrygoller at backpackgeartest.org, pct-l at backcountry.net
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Jerry Goller wrote:

>232 years of walkin' talkin' hell, death, and destruction
>
>The meanest fighting force the world has ever seen
>
>Mountain tall, guerrilla tough, United States Marine.
>
>I'd go on with the rest of it but I suspect it's a
>bit....ah.....inappropriate for this forum.......   ;o)
>


In 1962 the Marine Corps stopped teaching unarmed combat to new recruits.  
They found that in combat, the newbies would try to close with the enemy and

take them apart with their bare hands rather than just shoot them and be 
done with it.  The attitude was bad for the casualty rate - and kept the 
Navy medics too busy.

In any case, the article that follows is a very short history lesson. I 
think it's appropriate to remember just what it is that keeps this country 
free so that those who choose to do so can hike the long trails.

Walk softly,
Jim

>March 11, 2004
>
Return of the Marines: All-American warriors in Iraq
by W. Thomas Smith Jr.

Beginning this month, leathernecks from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force 
will return to Iraq, replacing elements of the Army's 82nd Airborne 
Division. The return of the Marines is surely bad news for those desperate 
to undermine the liberation of Iraq.

Not to take anything away from the U.S. Army  its soldiers have performed 
magnificently, and will no doubt continue to do so  but America's enemies 
have a particular fear of U.S. Marines.

During the first Gulf War in 1991, over 100,000 Iraqi soldiers were deployed

along the Iraqi-Kuwaiti coastline in anticipation of a landing by some 
17,000 U.S. Marines. Terrified by what they had been taught about the combat

prowess of Marines, the Iraqi soldiers had nicknamed them "Angels of Death."

The moniker  first published by Pulitzer-winner Rick Atkinson in his 
best-selling Crusade  carried over into the second Gulf war, last year, as 
the 1st Marine Division swept across the Iraqi plains. Attacking American 
forces were unsettling enough, but reports of the seaborne "Angels of Death"

being among the lead elements were paralyzing to many Iraqi combatants.

Despite less armor than other American ground forces, the Marines were among

the first to fight their way into Baghdad. And when intelligence indicated 
that foreign troops were coming to the aid of Iraqi diehards, Marine Brig. 
Gen. John Kelly stated, "we want all Jihad fighters to come here. That way 
we can kill them all before they get bus tickets to New York City."

Typical Marine bravado, some say. But it works.

Best-selling author Tom Clancy once wrote, "Marines are mystical. They have 
magic." It is this same magic, Clancy added, that "may well frighten 
potential opponents more than the actual violence Marines can generate in 
combat."

Fear of Marines is not a new phenomenon, nor is it unique to Iraqi soldiers.

Established in 1775, the U.S. Marine Corps came of age in World War I during

the 1918 Chateau Thierry campaign near the French village of Bouresches. 
There, Marines assaulted a line of German machine-gun nests on an old 
hunting preserve known as Belleau Wood. The fighting was terrible. Those 
Marines who weren't cut down by the enemy guns captured the nests in a 
grisly close-quarters slugfest. The shocked Germans nicknamed their foes, 
teufelhunden (devil dogs).

"Marines are considered a sort of elite Corps designed to go into action 
outside the United States," read a German intelligence report following the 
battle. "They consider their membership in the Marine Corps to be something 
of an honor. They proudly resent any attempts to place their regiments on a 
par with other infantry regiments."

Twenty-four years later as the 1st Marine Division was steaming toward 
Guadalcanal, a Japanese radio propagandist taunted that which the Japanese 
soldiers feared most. "Where are the famous United States Marines hiding?" 
the announcer asked. "The Marines are supposed to be the finest soldiers in 
the world, but no one has seen them yet?"

Over the next three years, Marines would further their reputation at places 
with names like Tarawa, Saipan, and Iwo Jima.

That reputation carried over into the Korean War.

"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the American Marines," confessed a

captured North Korean major. It was a fear echoed by his Chinese allies. In 
late 1950, Chinese premier Mao Tse Tung put out a contract on the 1st Marine

Division. The Marine division, according to Mao in written orders to the 
commander of the Chinese 9th Army Group, "has the highest combat 
effectiveness in the American armed forces. It seems not enough for our four

divisions to surround and annihilate its two regiments. You should have one 
or two more divisions as a reserve force."

Though costly for both sides, the subsequent Chinese trap failed to destroy 
the 1st Marine Division.

U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Frank Lowe later admitted, "The safest place in Korea 
was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!"

Over a decade later, Marines were the first major ground combat force in 
Vietnam. Army Gen. William C. Westmoreland, who commanded all American 
military forces in that country, conservatively stated he "admired the ilan 
of Marines." But despite the admiration, some Army leaders found their 
equally proficient units wanting for similar respect.

In 1982, during the invasion of Grenada, Army General John Vessey, then 
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, telephoned one of his officers and 
demanded to know why there were "two companies of Marines running all over 
the island and thousands of Army troops doing nothing. What the hell is 
going on?"

The reputation of Marines stems from a variety of factors: The Marine Corps 
is the smallest, most unique branch of the U.S. armed forces. Though it is 
organized as a separate armed service, it is officially a Naval 
infantry/combined-arms force overseen by the secretary of the Navy. The 
Corps' philosophical approach to training and combat differs from other 
branches. Marine boot camp  more of a rite-of-passage than a training 
program  is the longest and toughest recruit indoctrination program of any 
of the military services. Men and women train separately. All Marines from 
private to Commandant are considered to be first-and-foremost riflemen. And 
special-operations units in the Marines are not accorded the same respect as

they are in other branches. The Marines view special operations as simply 
another realm of warfighting. Marines are Marines, and no individual Marine 
or Marine unit is considered more elite than the other.

Consequently, newly minted Marines believe themselves to be superior to 
other soldiers, spawning understandable resentment from other branches.

But do Marines actually fight better than other soldiers? Rivals argue it's 
not so much their ability to fight  though that's never been a question  
but that Marines are simply masters in the art of public relations. 
President Harry Truman once stated that Marines "have a propaganda machine 
that is almost equal to Stalin's." Fact is, while other armed services have 
lured recruits with promises of money for college, "a great way of life," or

"being all you can be;" the Marines have asked only "for a few good men [and

today, women]" with the mettle to join their ranks.

Not surprisingly, there have been numerous unsuccessful efforts  primarily 
on the part of some Army and Navy officers  to have the Corps either 
disbanded or absorbed into the Army or Navy. Most of those efforts took 
place in the first half of the 20th Century. But even after the Marines' 
stellar performance in World War II, Army General Frank Armstrong proposed 
bringing them into the Army fold and condescendingly referring to the Corps 
as "a small bitched-up army talking Navy lingo."

As late as 1997, Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara Lister took aim at the

Marines. "I think the Army is much more connected to society than the 
Marines are." Lister said before an audience at Harvard University. "Marines

are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total

disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous."

Of course, the Commandant of the Marine Corps demanded an apology. Lister 
was fired. And Marines secretly said among themselves, "Yes we are 
extremists. We are dangerous. That's why we win wars and are feared 
throughout the world."

Despite its detractors, the Marines have become a wholly American 
institution  like baseball players, cowboys, and astronauts  in the eyes 
of most Americans. Marines indeed may be extreme, but America loves them, 
extremism and all. And fortunately for America, her enemies in the war 
against terror will continue to shudder upon hearing, "the Marines have 
landed."

 A former U.S. Marine infantry leader and paratrooper, W. Thomas Smith Jr. 
is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in a variety of national 
and international publications. His third book, Alpha Bravo Delta Guide to 
American Airborne Forces, has just been published.
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