[pct-l] [OT] Orange Dot

[Glen Hubbell]

I did not argue that orange dot = return to sender would reduce costs. Exactly the opposite. I misunderstood the intent of the original post. I guess you guys just wanted to complain about how powerless you are.
 
 If that is the case, I would suggest that this is not a proper forum for such complaints. This forum is for people who go out and achieve great things, such as 3000 mile hikes and remembering that we are the owners of this country, not the servants of its government.

Chance

Craig Stanton <craigstanton at mac.com> wrote: IMHO this is totally off topic, but I've marked it as such so people can choose not to open the mail just by reading the subject line. Anyway..


How can you argue that putting the mail back in the postal system, making them handle it, transport it and pay to dispose of it, will help reduce their costs?
Surely all that extra overhead is paid for by an increse in postal rates. 

And it sounds like a pretty good system for them to put second class mail as cheaper than it actually costs them to process it. Second class is open to everyone, not just these bulk mailers. If you're worried that first class mail is too expensive, don't use it. Send something early and send it cheaper. 

I once heard of another ploy to 'stick it to the big guy', in this case petrol (gas) stations. The idea was to not buy any fuel on Tuesdays. That will make them suffer, the claim went, how long will they last without us buying any fuel? I hope you can see the flaw in this. People just buy more on Mondays or Wednesdays, people still wantto drive the same amount, petrol (gas) companies still sell the same amount. Total effect = nil.

On Monday, November 05, 2007, at 02:55PM, "Glen Hubbell"  wrote:
>  Orange Dot = Return To Sender
>   
>  Mass mailings to Resident / Occupant / Boxholder / Neighbor / Etc. / destroys woodland habitat to provide paper, generates chemical pollution with the pulping and inking processes, and promotes ill considered consumption. These actions compromise the quality of the world we live in and endanger the health of future generations. 
>   
>  If you are concerned about these issues – or simply tired of being forced to receive junk mail and being forced to subsidize it through first class mail rate increases – here is a no risk action you can take which will:
>   
>  1) Increase the Post Office junk mail costs in every respect in ways they cannot budget for or control because they will have to handle the junk several times, transport it, and pay to dispose of it.  
>   
>  2) Make the Post Office aware that us citizen / customers are more important than the bulk mailers.  
>   
>  Simply place an Orange Dot sticky over your mailing address or use a black felt tip marker or anything that will cover over your mailing address, and place the piece of junk mail in a convenient, stand alone US Post Office mail collection box.
>   
>  To promote this idea, discuss it with someone who you know would be interested. You may also wish to place an Orange Dot on your vehicle or clothing to help develop a sense of how many of us are out there. 
>   
>  The Post Office is a cranky, unresponsive, Orwellian, monopoly bureaucracy and they will need time to figure out that the people who actually pay for the system should be served first. 
>   
>  Be Patient. Have Fun!
>   
>   
>  Here are a couple of links which will help you better understand how the Post Office does business.   
>   
>  There is no way the Post Office will allow you to be removed from (the) list!
>  http://www.ecofuture.org/jmusps.html 
>   
>  The Postal Service insists that first-class users are not being overcharged to subsidize Frederick's of Hollywood and other advertisers. But according to one U.S.P.S. study, first-class mail provides 68 percent more revenue than its attributable cost, while second-class mail provides 2 percent less than its cost.[55] In the early 1970s, six internal Postal Service audits concluded that first-class users were being over-charged to subsidize other classes.[56] The chief administrative judge of the Postal Rate Commission concluded, "The Postal Service has become a tax-collecting agency collecting money from first-class mailers to distribute to other favored classes."[57]
> http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa047.html 
>   
>   
>  The United States Postal Service was created in Philadelphia under Benjamin Franklin on July 26, 1775 by decree of the Second Continental Congress. Based on a clause in the United States Constitution empowering Congress "To establish post offices and post roads," it became the Post Office Department in 1792. It was part of the Presidential cabinet and the postmaster general was the last person in the United States presidential line of succession. In 1971, the department was reorganized as a quasi-independent agency of the federal government and acquired its present name. The postmaster general is no longer in the presidential line of succession.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service 
>   
>  Chance
>
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