[pct-l] JMT Permit......BAD ADVICE given

[Donna Saufley]

Jeff (aka Buzz Saw) and I have gotten 500+ mile permits for the PCT every
year for the past four years.  This is not only allowable, it gives the PCTA
a statistic to use in their assessment of trail use.  

I believe that the agencies delegated the permitting authority to the PCTA
to ease the burden on the agencies.  I don't think there's really any
difference -- the important thing is to have a permit for the area you're
in, and know the rules. 

I know of some folks who get a thru permit every year, so they can hike at
will without burdening agencies or themselves with getting individual
permits.  I don't see the harm in this at all.  Lots of folks do this
intending to hike the whole thing, but only wind up doing sections in the
end. Remember -- everyone is a section hiker until they complete an entire
thru hike, and the percentage of finishers is roughly 1/5 of those who start
out.

L-Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Junaid Dawud
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:45 PM
To: kmurray at pol.net; pctl
Subject: Re: [pct-l] JMT Permit......BAD ADVICE given

Hey my bad.

I knew some folks who had a hell of a time getting a
JMT permit.  The thru permit is rather easy to get, so
I thought it might be an alternative.  After I posted,
I went and looked at my thru permit and it would seem
that the "500 + miles" of the PCT means you intend to
do AT LEAST 500 miles of the trail.  Since the JMT
falls far short of that distance I don't think it
would be a valid permit.  Now if you wanted to do a
longer trip (JMT + some PCT) it would be valid.  


Soooo, please disregard the idea I presented in my
previous post.  The idea was not to commit "fraud",
but to use an alternative permit.  It does not appear
to be a VALID alternative.

Sorry----------Speshul 41



--- kmurray at pol.net wrote:

> The fastest, easiest way?  Call the reservation
> office, and reserve your
> permit.
> 
>
http://www.nps.gov/archive/yose/wilderness/permits.htm#reserve
> 
> However, the advice given earlier, to reserve a PCT
> permit, and use it for
> the JMT, is JUST WRONG.
> 
> The PCTA is granted the authority to write permits,
> as far as I know, the
> only such entity able to write wilderness permits
> outside the Forest or
> Park service in California.  It is a great
> privilege, and a great
> convenience for PCT hikers.
> 
> If people are known to be "cheating" by fraudulently
> getting permits to do
> the JMT, by getting a PCT permit from the PCTA, this
> privilege could be
> lost.  I'm sure it happens, rarely.  But there is no
> reason to, as one can
> easily get a permit, above.
> 
> It is lunacy to advocate "cheating" and putting the
> entire PCTA process in
> jeopardy.  It is likewise bad to try to create a
> bias in the useage
> pattern by false permits.
> 
> You may think that nobody notices this activity, but
> you'd be surprised at
> how many people like wilderness managers and rangers
> read these forums.
> 
> 
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