[pct-l] Bringing friends to hike part of the trail - could usesome suggestions

Tue Jan 2 20:25:12 CST 2007

Hi All   Happy New Year    Yes coming out of "Hauser Canyon" can be a 
killer. We had our scouts out for a day hike, within the first couple hours 
two of our boys were out of water. I had my day pack, 1.5 liters of water 
and 4 24oz bottles. I gave them 2 bottles each. They had brought 2 12oz 
bottles with them. It was June 6th of  03 and was very "hot". I was pulling 
up the rear to be sure every one was OK,  Ha. When we hit "Hauser Canyon" I 
was dry, Out of Water, Ka Put. All the men went ahead with a few of the 
scouts to get the cars, They had to shuttle back. My head was "cooking " so 
bad I rested under a bush that gave very little shade, I was about ready to 
pass out. One of the women with our group came back looking for me "God 
Bless Her" she had extra water. She walked with me until I was out of that 
mess. I know that I was very near the end of my rope. I've learned a lot 
since then, That good old Umbrella is good for shade too not just rain. The 
time of year, your conditioning, the terrain, Good old SoCal can "cook you 
and burn you up, drown you or freeze you. Remember  "Be Prepared"   Ground 
Pounder Bill     "Semper Fi"

PS  That hike got me seeing myself and how out of shape I was, I've now been 
working on that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz at mve-architects.com>
To: <paul at bluebrain.ca>; "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>; 
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bringing friends to hike part of the trail - could 
usesome suggestions

> Ask "Ground Pounder" Bill Frenette about the climb out of Hauser
> canyon...
> We nearly lost him!
>
> Michael  Saenz
> Associate Partner
>
> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Paul Mitchell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:00 PM
> To: Steve Courtway; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bringing friends to hike part of the trail - could
> usesome suggestions
>
> Yes, Morena Butte nearly killed Scoots and I in 03.  Quite a climb under
> the
> mid-day sun.
>
> All those crazy experienced hikers at the kick-off: "Pppfpfss ... the
> first
> 20 miles is a breeze ... took us six hours.  Nah, don't take your pack,
> it's
> eeeeeaaasy miles!"
>
> Cruel trick I say!!!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Steve Courtway
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:53 PM
> To: paul at bluebrain.ca; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bringing friends to hike part of the trail - could
> usesome suggestions
>
>
>> B) there's no significant altitude changes in this stretch - good for
> guys
>> who aren't in super shape.
>
> chances are you'll be camping on Hauser Mountain the first night, Morena
> Butte the following morning can be a tough climb in the HOT sun.....heh
> heh........prolly taken out many a city slicker 10 miles in.
>
> s.c.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Mitchell" <paul at bluebrain.ca>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Bringing friends to hike part of the trail - could use
> some
> suggestions
>
>
>>I have two friends who can't take the time to hike a long distance, but
>>have
>> expressed a keen interest in joining me for a stretch of the trail
> this
>> year.
>>
>> I'm thinking that Campo to Warner springs would be best for the
> following
>> reasons:
>>
>> A) we're all out of shape so I need to start slow.  Later in the hike
> when
>> I
>> need to make the big miles it'd be too hard for city boys to join me
> and
>> keep up with 20+ miles a day.
>>
>> B) there's no significant altitude changes in this stretch - good for
> guys
>> who aren't in super shape.
>>
>> C) since neither of them has been out of BC/Alberta much, the
> geography of
>> SoCal is like nothing they've experienced, so would be interesting for
>> them.
>>
>> D) the enthusiasm around kick-off time would be a great way to get
> them
>> motivated to try the full hike sometime in the future
>>
>> E) a couple days at Warner Springs Resort would be a fantastic way for
>> them
>> to end their first ever hiking trip.
>>
>> Here's my big concern though ... the first couple weeks on the trail
> after
>> kick-off is prime time for finding some trail buddies.  I have no
> interest
>> in spending much time alone on the trail, and I'm worried that if I'm
>> hiking
>> with a couple friends from the start, I may end up missing the best
> chance
>> to find a "group" to hike with.  I'm concerned that once we're done at
>> Warner Springs I'll find myself far behind "the pack" and hiking
> alone.
>> :-(
>>
>> I'll risk it because the pros of getting these guys on the trail far
> out
>> way
>> any personal concerns I have about my own hike, but I wonder if
> anybody
>> has
>> any other perspectives?  Any other sections of the trail that might be
>> better/more interesting for a first hike for these guys?
>>
>> They're both very interested, so I'm thinking about surprising them
> with
>> plane tickets so they HAVE to go.  ;-)
>>
>> Happy New Year!   Holy crap ... four months to go!  EEEEEK!
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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