[pct-l] Lingering with a question (redux)

[montypct]

> Hi Monty - was there anywhere on the trail where you had problems finding 
> resupply food?  Thanks  greg

No, with one or two exceptions.
I shipped almost everything.
I have other requirements that require extra shipping, so I have another 
reason to ship.
Everything arrived repackaged pre weighed and ready to go.
There's a few places I knew about that I bought food, but usually that comes 
with having to go a little heavier on food for a day or two.  Timberline 
Lodge, per phone, twice, told me they had resupply type food.  None.  But 
they had a decent hiker box so I did get resupplied.  Snoqualomine Pass was 
the toughest to get my box or find hiker food.  I had to call the 
independent postmaster on her cell phone a week before to have my box 
available at the PO outlet instead of down at a main PO miles away where the 
store all packages.  I think I bought a gas statiion type hot dog or two to 
suppliment my hiker box and that was as close as they got to real food. 
Things may be different this year.

This year I will intentionally short some of those packages so I can add on 
some "first day out" extras along the way like a couple Quarter Pounders 
with cheese at Cajon Pass (Hwy 15), a huge deli sandwich from Jensen's in 
Wrightwood, something from a great grocery store in Agua Dulce, a burrito 
from Tehachapi, Pizza (keeps very well) from Diamond Lake (Alt route north 
of Crater Lake) and the Stehekin Bakery. All the bigger towns have "first 
day food" that make my hike more pleasant.

Resupply wise, my stops are mostly 3-4 days with exceptions of 2 and 5 and 
maybe a 6 or two.

Warner Springs Monty



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
> To: "BLW" <ben at blowphoto.net>; "PCT-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lingering with a question (redux)
>
>
>>> Hello Monty,
>>>
>>> 1 1/2 pounds or less per day?  Wow--I'm getting hungry just thinking
>>> about it.  Yes, I'm curious--I've gone to thru-hiker.com and looked  at
>>> some food recommendations there, and they seemed adequate to me.   In 
>>> any
>>> case, yes, I'd like your ideas as new information is always a  good 
>>> thing.
>>
>>> Ben
>>
>>
>> Food for one day (shoot toward zero moisture) 16-24 0unces:
>>
>> Snacks (times three per day)
>> Nuts, trail mix, granola, dried pineapple, rasins, snickers, energy bar,
>> licorice, jolly ranchers,
>> jello instant pudding with powdered milk (sugar free weighs much 
>> less)....
>> .......................... 2- 3.5 ounces
>>
>> Breakfast
>> Pop Tarts, granola (1/8 cup powdered milk to add water later optional),
>> anything multigrain (bread, breakfast and energy
>> bars).........................................  ....................3-4
>> ounces
>>
>> Lunch
>> Tortillas, pita, rice cakes, crackers with peanut butter(prespread)
>> .............................................3-4 ounces
>>
>> Dinner
>> Lipton noodle sides, freeze dried backpacker food (chili mac
>> etc)..............................................3.5-4 0zs
>>
>> Repackage EVERYTHING (almost) in the bags you put your produce into in 
>> the
>> grocery store then cut off excess for a few reasons:
>> Lighter, less trash volume, and foods pack down much, much smaller than 
>> in
>> original packaging or ziplocks.  This is especially good for packing a 
>> bear
>> canister.
>>
>> I also carry 2-3 ounces of instant white rice as a backup for emergencies 
>> or
>> an addition to a noodle side  I usually had food left over coming into 
>> the
>> next town.  The three times in lots of miles I've run low is by 
>> misjudging
>> the number of days travel between resupplies, but on a per day basis I've
>> always had enough to get stuffed.
>>
>> If my math is correct we're looking at 16-24 ounces per day.
>>
>> On this diet, for example, I gained 2 lbs from the Canada to California
>> section doing up to 35 mile days.  Also the lighter pack (5.5 lb. base
>> weight) took much, much less energy to carry and would allow me to carry
>> much more food (or anything) weight and/or volume if I wanted .
>>
>> I don't know any thru-hiker who ate more than me.  I was NEVER hungry.
>>
>> Warner Springs Monty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "BLW" <ben at blowphoto.net>
>> To: "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lingering with a question (redux)
>>
>>
>>> Hello Monty,
>>>
>>> 1 1/2 pounds or less per day?  Wow--I'm getting hungry just thinking
>>> about it.  Yes, I'm curious--I've gone to thru-hiker.com and looked  at
>>> some food recommendations there, and they seemed adequate to me.   In 
>>> any
>>> case, yes, I'd like your ideas as new information is always a  good 
>>> thing.
>>> One problem with going ultra-lightweight is that I'm a photographer,  so
>>> I'll need a little extra room and padding for camera gear.  And my 
>>> cousin
>>> and I are planning to bring a tent between the two of us (so  that's
>>> probably another pound or two apiece).  Your idea to custom  fit the 
>>> pack
>>> is right on, and a suggestion I plan to follow.  If  you've got any more
>>> gems, please pass them on (in fact, if you have a  spare 24-105mm f/4 L
>>> lens, you could pass that on, too ;)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:34 AM, montypct wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ben
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like you've done a great job of reducing your base weight.
>>>> If you follow the same principles about food you can do a lot  better 
>>>> on
>>>> food weight that what a previous post suggests.
>>>> My food is about 1 1/2 lbs or less per day and is more than most
>>>> thru-hikers can eat.  There's also ways to pack it that greatly  reduce
>>>> the volume.  If you're curious about these things, let me  know. But it
>>>> looks like you are already pretty well educated with  the base weight 
>>>> you
>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not hiking until 2008, you might have even more changes.
>>>>
>>>> A pack is the last thing to buy if you're going to custom fit it to 
>>>> your
>>>> gear.  My main thru-hike packs are only 1800 cubic inches.
>>>>
>>>> Warner Springs Monty
>>>>
>>>
>>
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