[pct-l] grade math/guidebooks

[Steve Courtway]

I called REI, they have a copy of the Northern California guidebook, and a 
couple So Cal maps, but that's it.
Sports Chalet does not carry them, Nor are they available from the Forest 
Service.

You're better off ordering them ahead of time.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Allen" <m_allen1453 at hotmail.com>
To: <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>; <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>; 
<msaenz at mve-architects.com>; <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Cc: <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] grade math


>i know this is off the subject for you folks, but could someone tell me if 
>i can get a PCT guidebook or map when i arrive in Campo before getting on 
>the trail?
>
>
>>From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
>>To: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>,"Mike Saenz" 
>><msaenz at mve-architects.com>,"Bill & Cathy  Frenette" 
>><tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
>>CC: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] grade math
>>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:16:10 +0000
>>
>>The average gradiant limits established by the PCT architects are not in 
>>effect along the Official Detour in Washington.  The climb up Little Giant 
>>exceeds the average limits by a significant margin.  It was a goat track 
>>in late August when I went through, but the views were simply spectacular. 
>>The detour has received a lot of bad press, but make no mistake the climbs 
>>up Boulder and Little Giant are well worth the trip!  No doubt, I will 
>>return to Northern Washington to do the old official PCT route in the 
>>future, but I was glad to have the chance to do the detour.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>
>>
>> > > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about
>>4905
>> > > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade 
>> > > average
>>up
>> > > Mission Creek?
>> > > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
>> >
>> >
>> > You are correct sir, the PCT-L has provided an opportunity to freshen 
>> > up
>> > your site planning skills, as 6% is also the maximum allowable ramp
>>slope
>> > for automobiles.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Mike Saenz"
>> > To: "Bill & Cathy Frenette"
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)
>> >
>> >
>> > > Elevation at PCT/I-10 is 1580 at mile 210.
>> > > Mission Creek Trail Camp is 7965 at mile 239.
>> > > That's 6385 feet gain in 29 miles, or 220 feet of gain per mile
>>(average).
>> > >
>> > > As for "grade percentage", the trail stays fairly low for the first 
>> > > 15
>> > > miles before the real climb up the east flank of San G along Mission
>> > > Creek.
>> > >
>> > > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about
>>4905
>> > > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade 
>> > > average
>>up
>> > > Mission Creek?
>> > > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > ________________________________________
>> > > From: Bill & Cathy Frenette [mailto:tahoe.cat at verizon.net]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:26 AM
>> > > To: Mike Saenz
>> > > Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
>> > > Subject:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Mike I was wondering if you, or anyone on the list knew what the
>>grade
>> > > in percentage was from the I-10 to Mission creek trail camp? Thanks
>>for
>> > > any info. "Be Prepared" Ground Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
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