[pct-l] grade math

Mark Allen m_allen1453 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 13 14:21:59 CST 2007


i know this is off the subject for you folks, but could someone tell me if i 
can get a PCT guidebook or map when i arrive in Campo before getting on the 
trail?


>From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
>To: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>,"Mike Saenz" 
><msaenz at mve-architects.com>,"Bill & Cathy  Frenette" 
><tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
>CC: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] grade math
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:16:10 +0000
>
>The average gradiant limits established by the PCT architects are not in 
>effect along the Official Detour in Washington.  The climb up Little Giant 
>exceeds the average limits by a significant margin.  It was a goat track in 
>late August when I went through, but the views were simply spectacular.  
>The detour has received a lot of bad press, but make no mistake the climbs 
>up Boulder and Little Giant are well worth the trip!  No doubt, I will 
>return to Northern Washington to do the old official PCT route in the 
>future, but I was glad to have the chance to do the detour.
>
>Jeff
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>
>
> > > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about 
>4905
> > > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade average 
>up
> > > Mission Creek?
> > > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
> >
> >
> > You are correct sir, the PCT-L has provided an opportunity to freshen up
> > your site planning skills, as 6% is also the maximum allowable ramp 
>slope
> > for automobiles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Saenz"
> > To: "Bill & Cathy Frenette"
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)
> >
> >
> > > Elevation at PCT/I-10 is 1580 at mile 210.
> > > Mission Creek Trail Camp is 7965 at mile 239.
> > > That's 6385 feet gain in 29 miles, or 220 feet of gain per mile 
>(average).
> > >
> > > As for "grade percentage", the trail stays fairly low for the first 15
> > > miles before the real climb up the east flank of San G along Mission
> > > Creek.
> > >
> > > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about 
>4905
> > > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade average 
>up
> > > Mission Creek?
> > > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
> > >
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> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Bill & Cathy Frenette [mailto:tahoe.cat at verizon.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:26 AM
> > > To: Mike Saenz
> > > Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
> > > Subject:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike I was wondering if you, or anyone on the list knew what the 
>grade
> > > in percentage was from the I-10 to Mission creek trail camp? Thanks 
>for
> > > any info. "Be Prepared" Ground Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
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