Robert, they want you to pee in a bag when coming from the west, too. On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:32:12 -0800, Robert W. Freed <robert at engravingpros.com> wrote: > ... > Now if you are hiking up from or down to the Portal it is a totally > different story. They even want you to pee in a bag now. > Robert -- Jeffrey "57" Zimmerman Sonoma County The Left Coast