[pct-l] Ursack(s) for Oregon

[Steel-Eye]

Good morning, Ollen,

While you are certainly welcome to bag, or double-bag, as you wish anywhere outside of the SIBBG area, the fact is: You don't have to.  I can speak with most familiarity about Oregon, and here bears are not a problem.  There may have been instances where bears have gotten into a PCT hiker's food, but in the last 47 years I've not heard of one.  In the entire tri-state area, bears .... except for habituated park bears .... are wild and reclusive, and they avoid human contact.

I usually carry my food in light-weight stuff sacks, and I sleep with them close at hand.  Bears won't come close .... maybe because I smell too bad.  Hanging the food is a pain, and leaving it on the ground well away from my sleeping bag could invite their investigation.  Except for a few additional ounces, a Ursak can be a fine food storage bag.  A determined bear could eventually get in, but if the bag is secured to a tree within hearing distance of your sleeping bag you should hear the commotion before any significant damage is done, and you could chase the bear off.

Steel-Eye
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: OMullis 
  To: Pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:21 PM
  Subject: [pct-l] Ursack(s) for Oregon


  Reading all the traffic regarding Ursacks and Garcias and BearVaults and Bearikades, primarily if not exclusively in the context of California PCT sections and, being the owner of a never-yet-used Ursack V27, intended for use in Oregon only Sept 2008...  

  I am wondering about the effectiveness and/or (f)utility of perhaps 'double-bagging'... that is, an Ursack within an Ursack...   

  Rather than eating the cost of my V27 to replace it with a (perhaps unneeded for Oregon and certainly heavier) BV / Garcia /Bearikade, might it not be sufficient and overall less costly for me to buy another V27 and double-bag?  I'd be out only $50 more, the twin V27s weigh in at 16 ounces combined, and, when used in conjunction with odor-proofing liners might just be a workable and sufficient food protection strategy for Oregon...

  Your opinions will be appreciated and considered.

  Thanks,
  Ollen
  Venus, TX


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