[pct-l] Trail Ales

[Mike Saenz]

VERY nice!!!

How does the larger stove perform? I've heard from others that the large
burner is less efficient than the smaller Pepsi or tuna can versions. I
also did a (very) unscientific test on how well an oilcan would hold up
to heat. I didn't.
(I had to fish out the melted/burnt can out of a campfire pit)
But it looks like you've managed to make it work!

So does it burn more fuel per 2 cups of water than the traditional can
stoves?
How long till 2 cups come to a boil at, say, 10k?

Michael  Saenz
Associate Partner

MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors 
Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu

1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Deems [mailto:losthiker at sisqtel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:09 PM
To: Mike Saenz; jeff.singewald at comcast.net; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Ales 

Mike,
After I drink a couple of the green label Oil cans, known to us as
Foster 
Bitter around this canyon; I cut them up and make a stove out of the 
carcasses...You decide which is the better outcome.. It's the only beer
I 
can tolerate coming out of aluminum...I prefer bottled beer, made with
fresh 
snowmelt, and brewed by talented mountain dwelling elves... The Solstice
is 
only a few hours away!
http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/56167949
http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/59312294
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike Saenz
To: jeff.singewald at comcast.net ; Deems ; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Trail Ales


I agree. A regular Sierra Nevada is tastier than a REGULAR oilcan.

However- try the rare, and much better "green label" oilcan!

http://www.angelfire.com/ult/oilcan/

good stuff!

I always pack one for the 1st night on the trail.

Last May, at Saddle Junction above Idyllwild, "Smiley" and a few of his
pack 
met up with me and after a few words he exclaimed" ..so YOU'RE Oilcan!
You 
gotta show me that oilcan!" (see attached - sorry PCT-L, attachments
don't 
go through). He snapped this pic and sent it to me after he completed
his 
thru-hike.



Michael Saenz
Associate Partner

MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu

1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
949.809.3388 
| www.mve-architects.com





From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net [mailto:jeff.singewald at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Mike Saenz; Deems; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Ales

Oilcan,

Speaking of oilcans..... As I left Tehachappi and Highway 58 to begin
the 
long climb up towards Golden Oak Springs this past summer I found
Giddy-up, 
Paulie and Abondoner also heading out of town.  We climbed out of the
canyon 
together and decided we would meet up again at the spring.  As I reached
the 
spring I found myself craving a cold one as the "spring" was by no means

golden at all.  It was a cement cow trough at best with the incoming
water 
dripping at about 1 liter every 2 minutes.  Some time later Abandoner
comes 
into camp and drops his pack and pulls out three OilCans (yep, the big
uns!) 
and throws them into the through to cool down a bit.  He hauled those 
oilcans out of Tehachappi as a surprise for Giddy-up and Paulie.  Now
that 
is what I call magic!  What I would have done for one of them!  But, off
the 
trail, pour me a Sierra Nevada anytime over the oilcan.  In fact, I was
just 
up in Chico for the Thanksgiving hol iday a nd went out to the brewery
and 
bought a case of the Celebration Ale and a case of the Brown Ale right
off 
the packaging line.  Nothing better!

Elevator

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz at mve-architects.com>

> I just tried the Sierra Nevada "Celebration" last Sunday.
> I didn't care for it.
>
> Oilcans, people. Oilcans....
>
> Michael Saenz
> Associate Partner
>
> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
> Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu
>
> 1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
> 949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Deems
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Trail Ales
>
> Mad Monte and I shared a pitcher of "Walking Man" Ale and pizza
> together in
> the Salmon Row Pub in Cascade Locks last June. Then we hiked up into
the
>
> Eagle Creek Gorge for a great camping and photo trip. My all time
> favorite
> is the Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, which is only available once a
> year
> around the winter solstice. I will soon crack one (or more) open, and
> celebrate the solstice!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Thought I'd reply to a less 'controversial' subject here. Not much of
a
> beer
> drinker on or off the trail, but has anyone had any of the fine beers
> from
> the Six Rivers brewery in Mckinnleyville CA? ('Loaders light' a good
> one)
> Pretty good stuff, and plus Bigfoot is their mascot. I agree with the
> comments
> about New Mexico. I remember seeing a LOT of empties alongside the
> roads,
> this
> could be a possible hiker income supplement! Scott
&g t;
>
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