Re: [pct-l] Fire Rules - alpine especially

[Craig Smith <csmith@lib.drury.edu>]

Hello, Charlie,

I thought I'd covered my bases on objections to civil disobedience in the
first sentence of my second paragraph when I wrote "I do _not_ support the
building and use of fire in areas where "no fire" rules are in effect...",
so I can only reiterate the intent of my message that, one should use peaceful and
non-destructive, non-harmful means to bring attention to the existence of
unjust laws, in much the same way that Rachel Carson, M. L. King, Jr., and
Thoreau did. And to restate, "civil disobedience can be pacific AND
effective."

Craig Smith

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Charcholla wrote:

> In a message dated 98-03-26 10:04:27 EST, csmith@lib.drury.edu writes:
> 
> << I agree with Birgitte's argument considering fire in alpine areas, i.e.,
> that alpine areas can support a fire, tho' not in the sense of a raging
> wildfire; these fragile environments can be damaged. ...  I do _not_ support
> the building and use of fire in areas where "no fire"  rules are in effect. >>
> 
> So far, so good, Craig.
> 
> 
> <<But I also agree with Dave G. that inappropriate rules/laws do exist and
> should be "beaten" until they reflect real-life situations that center around
> applications of justice. ... But to support the idea of civil disobedience ...
> >>
> 
> Sorry Craig (and Dave), IMHO, civil disobedience steps "over the line." While
> this regulation is in place, all of us as good citizens (and responsible
> campers/hikers) should abide by the regulation while we are in those areas
> named in the regulation.
> 
> I DO support Dave's latest action in contacting the USDA (FS) to find out
> their intent / interpretation of this regulation. I am anxious to hear what
> they have to say and I know that Dave will share their comments with us. 
> 
> Once we learn the FS's "intent" of the regulation, then we ALL need to abide
> by the regulation (whether we as individuals agree with it or not) until we
> can lobby and have it changed.
> 
> Charlie Jones
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