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I'm glad to see there are new threads appearing that have to do with the
logistics of PCT trekking.  I was getting worried that the dialogue was
going to get permanently bogged down in the pluses and minuses of alcohol
vs. white gas vs. regular gas, etc.  I suppose it must have the gas issue
that gave rise to the Great Poop In the Woods discussion and the recent
Giardia Flap.  Seriously, these issues are worth discussing, but for me I
like to see the discussions on motels, snow issues, etc.
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From: pct-l-digest <pct-l-digest>
To: pct-l-digest@saffron.hack.net <pct-l-digest@saffron.hack.net>
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 11:39 PM
Subject: pct-l-digest V1 #404


>
>pct-l-digest        Saturday, February 28 1998        Volume 01 : Number
404
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
>    [pct-l] desert hiking and big bend
>    [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #403
>    [pct-l] Motel at South Lake Tahoe
>    [pct-l] Mojave Motel
>    Re: [pct-l] desert hiking and big bend
>    Re: [pct-l] Mojave Motel
>    [pct-l] re Jacob's comment
>    [pct-l] re: belly beasties
>    Re: [pct-l] Motel at South Lake Tahoe
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:18:57 CST
>From: "dAvId aLbErT." <V059@ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
>Subject: [pct-l] desert hiking and big bend
>
>I was just interested in knowing some of the basics concerning desert
>hiking.  More specifically a friend and I are planning a trip to Big
>Bend National Park in Texas.  I feel that I have a good deal of
>experience wiin regular hiking and long distance hiking.  However,
>living in the northeast puts a damper on my desert hiking experiences.
>Just wondering if anybody could help me with some of the basics
>(especially how much waterto bring.) I know what the survival books say
>but want input from someone with direct experience.  Also, anybody who
>has been to Big Bend National Park I would be interested in hearing your
>experiences.  The latter question can be answered directly to my e-mail
>address so as not to clog up the list.  Sincerely, David.
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:16:07 -0800
>From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #403
>
>At 12:00 AM 2/27/1998 -0600, Ryan Hunter <ryhunter@linfield.edu> asked:
>> If anyone has any other suggestions for a good PCT type pack I
>>would be very interested to hear what you have to say.
>
>Here is what I am planning:   Get a Jansport Nepali (they are on sale on
>the net now for a reasonable price).   Remove the bag, the upper bag
>support brace and associated hardware.  Retain the shoulder straps and hip
>belt mechanisms.  At this point your frame and support weighs about 34 oz.
>Make new back panels (to keep the frame off your back) and a new bag (from
>nylon mesh).  Total weight about 37 oz. and it will carry as much as you
>want in comfort.
>
>I thought a lot about making my own frame and came to the conclusion I
>could not meet my target of $90 per pound saved.   The Jansport frame is
>quite nicely done, and the suspension is first rate.  I wish the back bands
>were separate from the bag so I didn't need to make new ones.
>
>As for waterproofness, I am planning to carry my tarp ready to deploy over
>my pack and myself for waterproof cover.
>
>If you will not modify, REI has a frame on sale for about $90 now.  I have
>not looked at it in great detail but it weighs 66 oz.
>- --
>Dave Gomberg mailto:gomberg@wcf.com
>FormMaestro  <http://www.wcf.com>
>Any business offer in this mail expires in 3 days unless otherwise
specified.
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:46:47 -0500
>From: "Vaughn, Ron" <RSV@crai.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Motel at South Lake Tahoe
>
>Regarding rates at the Sunset Lodge Motel in South Lake Tahoe, the motel
has
>cheap rates Sunday through Thursday nights, and then the rates are about
>double for Friday, Saturday, and holiday nights.  The area sells out as
>weekenders from Sacramento and the bay area swarm over Lake Tahoe.  In 1997
>the rates were about $32 for a single room with bath, cable TV, and
included
>pick up and drop off at Echo Lake (call from the Echo Lake pay phone).
>
>The motel is a five minute walk to lots of restaurants (including fast
food,
>Chinese, AYCE, Italian, pastry, etc.), laundry, huge supermarket, K Mart,
>bookstore, banks and post office.  Ask about the motel hiker box.  There's
a
>local bus service for two bucks all day, which will take you all over town
>(including the casinos).  From the casinos there is a nice bus to Reno
>airport for less than $20 (a bargain compared to the $130 cab fare).
>
>Sam, the motel owner is very friendly and helpful.  Truly one of the nicer
>stops along the PCT.
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:37:10 EST
>From: Charcholla <Charcholla@aol.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Mojave Motel
>
>Hikers,
>
>A while back, someone mentioned the name (and phone number) of the motel in
>Mojave that caters to PCT hikers. I try to save such things, but I can't
seem
>to find that one now that I need it.
>
>Can someone send that info to me (on the list, please)?
>Or, use          Charlie.jones@juno.com
>if you want to send it directly to me.
>
>Thanks,
>Charlie
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:57:44 -0900 (AKST)
>From: Jacob B Barowsky <fsjbb@aurora.alaska.edu>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] desert hiking and big bend
>
>It depends on when your going and what part of the park your going to. If
>You are going in the summer to lower elevations you should reconsider,
>it's just to hot to be enjoyable. If your going to the higher elevations
>you should plan on a gallon of drinking water a day per person.
>
>The best experience I ever had in big bend was during a snow "storm" about
>two inches of snow fell and we were the only people in the park.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, dAvId aLbErT. wrote:
>
>> I was just interested in knowing some of the basics concerning desert
>> hiking.  More specifically a friend and I are planning a trip to Big
>> Bend National Park in Texas.  I feel that I have a good deal of
>> experience wiin regular hiking and long distance hiking.  However,
>> living in the northeast puts a damper on my desert hiking experiences.
>> Just wondering if anybody could help me with some of the basics
>> (especially how much waterto bring.) I know what the survival books say
>> but want input from someone with direct experience.  Also, anybody who
>> has been to Big Bend National Park I would be interested in hearing your
>> experiences.  The latter question can be answered directly to my e-mail
>> address so as not to clog up the list.  Sincerely, David.
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:19:09 -0800 (PST)
>From: Karl Brandt <brandt@snf.Stanford.EDU>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave Motel
>
>On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Charcholla wrote:
>
>> A while back, someone mentioned the name (and phone number) of the motel
in
>> Mojave that caters to PCT hikers. I try to save such things, but I can't
seem
>> to find that one now that I need it.
>
>Here it is:
>
>White's Motel
>16100 Sierra Hwy,
>Mojave, CA 93501-1520
>Phone: (805)824-2421
>
>I stayed there last year and was treated well. The post office
>is just down the street but the large grocery store (Luckys?) was
>across town (~1.5 miles). They'll drive you too and from the trail but
>it's a little hard to call them from the trail. If you do stay there,
>ask for a room in the back. That way you won't have to listen to
>trains all night long.
>
>- -Karl PCT97, LT98 ?, TYT98 ?
>
>*********************************************************************
>Karl "birdman" Brandt                   Center for Integrated Systems
>kbrandt@stanford.edu                    Via Ortega Rd.
>(650) 725-3686                          Stanford, CA 94305-4070
>http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~kbrandt/
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:24:00 -0500
>From: Ken Marlow <kmarlow@ngs.org>
>Subject: [pct-l] re Jacob's comment
>
>"The best experience I ever had in big bend was during a snow "storm" about
>two inches of snow fell and we were the only people in the park."
>
>
>Now THAT is what dreams are made of.
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>
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:01:33 -0800
>From: Michael Henderson <mikeh@royalrobbins.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] re: belly beasties
>
>dave gomberg wrote:
>
>>>>   Gee, Dr. Robbins, that is contrary to what we teach here at USCF.
<<<
>
>i didn't know the Unisted States Cycling Federation taught medicine.
>
>sorry, just had to lighten things up a bit...
>
>
>mike
>ke kaahawe   AT92 TYT94 PCTsoon
>mikeh@royalrobbins.com
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>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:33:49 -0400
>From: Tom Caggiano <hikenet@interactive.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Motel at South Lake Tahoe
>
>At 11:46 AM -0500 2/27/98, Vaughn, Ron wrote:
>>Regarding rates at the Sunset Lodge Motel in South Lake Tahoe, the motel
has
>>cheap rates Sunday through Thursday nights, and then the rates are about
>>double for Friday, Saturday, and holiday nights.  The area sells out as
>>weekenders from Sacramento and the bay area swarm over Lake Tahoe.  In
1997
>>the rates were about $32 for a single room with bath, cable TV, and
included
>>pick up and drop off at Echo Lake (call from the Echo Lake pay phone).
>>
>>The motel is a five minute walk to lots of restaurants (including fast
food,
>>Chinese, AYCE, Italian, pastry, etc.), laundry, huge supermarket, K Mart,
>>bookstore, banks and post office.  Ask about the motel hiker box.  There's
a
>>local bus service for two bucks all day, which will take you all over town
>>(including the casinos).  From the casinos there is a nice bus to Reno
>>airport for less than $20 (a bargain compared to the $130 cab fare).
>>
>>Sam, the motel owner is very friendly and helpful.  Truly one of the nicer
>>stops along the PCT.
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>
>alan, this msg indicates the pacific crest goes by south lake tahoe!
>
>Please see if there is some local book that covers that area. I'll buy it
>and leave it with you as a gift.  Might have you have breakfast in Lake
Tahoe
>Drop me off with snoe shoes and I'll hike out over night(s). I'll call you
>on my cell phone and we can them met again the next day or two and have
>dinner or lunch on the lake depending how it goes.  Just another idea in
>the hopper.
>
>MCI has now lowered its rates. it's 9 cents 24 hour/day and on Sunday only
>5 cents.
>per minute.
>
>- -Tom
>
>
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