[pct-l] Re: forest service lands for sale

[ryan_christensen at sbcglobal.net (Ryan Christensen)]

This makes sense to me as well. It mirrors exactly
what is happening here in the North Coast of
California. The argument that 'environmentalists' are
at fault for the loss of jobs in the logging industry
has always rung hollow to me. Its perfect piece of
propaganda companies like to put out there to warp
peoples perception of reality. 

The truth is the not only are the jobs being sent
overseas, but also the rate companies were harvesting
timber was unsustainable. Even if there were no
environmental regulations there were going to be a
huge down swing in the timber industry-- because they
cut themselves out of harvestable wood.

Ryan



--- Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net> wrote:

> that was very informative and well put. It makes
> sense as well. Sad, but 
> true...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
______________________________________________________
> "And yet, though politically unpopular to speak of,
> this is money that use 
> to come from the logging industry. I not only live
> in an area where a sale 
> could effect my friends and I, also know how the
> loss of that revenue has 
> devastated many peoples careers, lives, and the
> schools that had been 
> receiving these funds for many, many years. Their
> loss due to cut back in 
> logging and buying most our lumber from foreign
> countries, is very 
> specifically a result of the agencies and folks who
> are now fighting this 
> sale.
> 
>   I don't want to start a flame war,but i cant let
> this stand, it is totally 
> untrue.
>   Let me start by saying ,I've spent a lot of time
> in your area and have 
> relatives in the area .my uncle was  in the logging
> industry ,and I've 
> discussed this with him at length,so i know what im
> talking about.
>   The "environmentalists have destroyed logging" is
> a myth, a lie, 
> perpetuated by the logging industry so they dont
> have to tell the truth or 
> take personal responsibility for their actions.What
> to know where your jobs 
> went? start with mechanization. The feller/buncher
> has cost more logging 
> jobs than all the environmentalists put together.
> Want to know where all the 
> mill jobs went? take a day trip to eureka or coos
> bay,watch as they load 
> logs and jobs onto ships to countries where they pay
> less then a dollar an 
> hour.
>   The plain truth is in this day and age, single
> industry towns are becoming 
> obselete,corperate consolidation is killing towns
> right and left,from 
> midwest farm communities to northwest logging towns
> and the people that are 
> suffering most are the biggest supporters of these
> policies.
>   even if we upped cutting on public lands,the
> benefit to your community 
> would be negligible .mill jobs are never coming
> back,and with less manpower 
> needed for harvesting, job creation would be small.
>   So why is big timber pushing  for more ? follow
> the money. in all the 
> years that the forest service has been in charge of
> public lands they have 
> only shown a profit twice(once in the 50s,and once
> in the 80s)the more they 
> cut, the more they can sell overseas with, the
> profit going to corporate 
> headquarters(probably based in the tax haven of the
> Bahamas)your town gets 
> nothing, and as a bonus, the cut over land stops
> being a diverse forest, and 
> turns into a federally subsidised tree farm.
> 
>   As for this being a school issue.let me put it
> this way, if anyone out 
> there believes this is really about schools,please
> get in touch with me  i 
> have some oil money i need to move out of Nigeria.
>   This has nothing to do with school funding ,its a
> smokescreen, a political 
> ploy,a land mine  for the midterm elections. cant
> you just see the 
> commercials:
>   NOT ONLY DOES SENATOR SMITH HATE AMERICA,HE HATES
> SCHOOL CHILDREN,HE VOTED 
> AGAINST FUNDING RURAL SCHOOLS.
> 
>   Please dont take this as a personal attack,im
> trying to help, you've been 
> duped ,dont take my word for it,check it out for
> yourself and then spread 
> the word .
> 
> 
> 
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