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[pct-l] Shires? Moak? Frankle? Nextec Epic Vs. Endurance
How is the breathability / Wieght of eVent compared to Gortex, Epic, etc...?
Mouse
>From: Mark Verber <verber@gmail.com>
>To: Joseph Niemiec <whitethunder10@hotmail.com>
>CC: Bighummel@aol.com, PCT@delnorteresort.com,
>pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net, jomike@cot.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shires? Moak? Frankle? Nextec Epic Vs. Endurance
>Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:47:44 -0800
>
>I have used clothing and used shelters made with Epic. BTW: Epic comes in a
>number of weights. Personally, I wouldn't use EPIC in a shelter that was
>to
>provide protection when an extended rain was likely. It will wet out. In
>clothing weight I found I was getting soaked after around 1 hour in a
>moderate hard rain storm. In a shelter, I would expect full protections
>for
>several hours. On a trip last year a friend was using a BD epic tent.
>After
>several hours of rain he started to get wet, and had small pools by the
>next morning after something like 10 hours of solid rain. While I had some
>condensation drip on me, I was significantly drier under my gossimar gear
>spinnshelter in a locked down pitch.
>
>On the other hand, when not expecting extended rain (say the sierras during
>the summer, or winter camping in snow) I think EPIC would be pretty nice.
>I
>would much prefer eVENT (best material for a single wall shelter I have
>seen)... but there are serious licensing, cost, and availibility issues
>which makes it unlikely.
>
>--Mark
>
>
>On 1/29/06, Joseph Niemiec <whitethunder10@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For the gearheads:
> >
> > Just wondering about the materials Pertex Endurance fabric and Nextec
> > Epic...
> >
> > Has anyone used these yet? Are they hype or are they actually
>waterproof
> > and breathable? Any reason Epic would be a bad choice for the Tarptent
> > since it is supposed to be breathable? Too heavy? How about compared
>to
> > Gortex? Breathablilty? best applications?
> >
> > What do Shires, Moak, Frankle - "Shmokle", or anyone else, got to say on
> > this one?
> >
> > Mouse
> >
> >
> > >From: Bighummel@aol.com
> > >To: PCT@DelNorteResort.Com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > >CC: jomike@cot.net
> > >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Getting started
> > >Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:40:41 EST
> > >
> > >This organizer states that the donations that we request are for the
> > >operation of the event, which has been widely hailed as THE best
> > gathering
> > >of the
> > >trail community on the West coast. We maintain a modest fund from the
> > >donations
> > >in order to pay ahead for the campsites, food, drinks, rented tables,
> > etc.,
> > >etc. and in order to have a modest insurance for that unlikely event
>when
> > >we go
> > >to the enormous extent and expense to put this event on and then a rare
> > >event;
> > >such as earthquake, huge storm or terrorist attack, just before the
>event
> > >causes few or no one to show and we must eat the expenses. Donations
> > from
> > >the
> > >excess funds generated go to the host site of the event; Lake Morena
>and
> > to
> > >the
> > >PCTA.
> > >
> > >As someone stated a couple years ago, the ADZPCTKO is not necessary.
>It
> > >has
> > >been organized and put on thru the generosity of about 20+ organizers
>who
> > >contribute a huge amount of their personal time over the coarse of a
> > year,
> > >without
> > >ANY financial benefit, for the educational, inspirational and
> > entertainment
> > >benefit of those who aspire to hike this incredible resource. We do
>this
> > >because it is fun to see the camaraderie come together and . . . as
>Ned
> > >Tibbits
> > >(PCT '73) said (with a tear in his eye) upon seeing and talking to so
> > many
> > >who
> > >had hiked the trail before, "Greg, this is just, just
> > unbelievable. Since
> > >1973
> > >when I hiked the trail I have only encountered perhaps 2 or 3 other
> > people
> > >who understood what I and you understand. You and the organizers have
> > >created
> > >this event where an aspiring hiker can meet 250 to 300 good people all
>of
> > >whom
> > >completely understand the passions and love."
> > >
> > >You may choose to see ill intent or miss-focused efforts in all of
>this,
> > >but
> > >then you would miss the true, honest intent. The PCTA FULLY supports
>the
> > >ADZPCTKO and feels that it is such a great event that virtually all of
> > the
> > >original organizers have been singled out by the organization and given
> > >awards for
> > >"giving back to the trail". Not all contributions of time, effort and
> > >money to
> > >the trail actually go into the soil and land and maintenance, but also
> > the
> > >people, the passions and community.
> > >
> > >Perhaps you should attend just once so that you may experience this
> > unique
> > >feeling and understand just what and why this event continues to grow
>and
> > >thrive.
> > >
> > >Best regards,
> > >
> > >Greg Hummel
> > >
> > >In a message dated 1/29/2006 2:50:15 PM Central Standard Time,
> > >PCT@DelNorteResort.Com writes:
> > >JoAnn, maybe we could get an answer from the organizers on this one?
> > >
> > >Do the ADZPCTKOP organizers encourage donations for the funding of the
> > >party
> > >or would they rather see those donations go to the PCTA for maintaining
> > the
> > >trail?
> > >
> > >It seems that PCT hikers and the ADZPCTKOP are dependent on the trail
>for
> > >their existence.
> > >
> > >Scott Parks
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