[pct-l] section times Desert WF

[shutterbugg313 at yahoo.com (Shutterbug steiner)]

The dates for section E was end of March was ideal
  For section A it was just after the kickoff and I thought it was a little late and a lot crowded.
   
  Every year is different   -- the Local newspapers usually post the best and times every year vary dramatically depending on water.  I do not think you would be dissappointed and have snow problems from Beginning of March thru End of April  for both sections A&E.  The elevation and water vary too much to hit the peaks all the time.
   
  SB

Kimberly Sorbello <ksorbello@hotmail.com> wrote:
  THanks! We had hoped to time the deserts with the wildflowers. What have 
you found best, time-wise for them?


From: Shutterbug steiner 
To: pct 

Subject: Re: [pct-l] section times
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:42:19 -0800 (PST)

Last year (on a wet year) I hiked section E end of March and found snow in 
the Tehachpis - but very passable. I would imagine that section A would be 
passable even earlier. Section B would have the San Jacintos that were 
treacherous even till the end of May. Wild flowers are very nice in the 
deserts (Mojave & Anza Borrego) and I try to coincide my travels during the 
peak of the flower season.
The Cascades might be passable in June and July I have heard horror 
stories about Mosquitoes picking you up if you looked like you were the 
weakest in your group. I hiked both of these in August and had little bug 
problems and only rain problems in Washington in 2004.

SB

Kimberly Sorbello wrote:
We are retiring and newly back into backpacking and are interested in
section-hiking the pct. The books we've been able to find deal generally
with thru-hiking timelines, but we would like to hike sections at their
optimum seasons. What is the lowest section's best time; I'm assuming it is
spring, but could someone tell me something more specific re: the earliest
times to hike it in relative pleasure/comfort? Thanks. Also,1if someone
could tell us the optimum time to hike the Tahoe Rim and the John Muir...
Thank you!
Pilgrim


From: Chance Money
To: JD Schaefer
CC: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Open trail Directory
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:08:43 -0800 (PST)

Hi JD

To my knowledge, there is no accurate mileage system available. The most
commonly used system for mileage is from the Shaffer PCT guide books and the
related data books which are copyrighted. Experienced PCT hikers always seem
to have issues with the mileage claims from these sources but as a practical
matter, they are all we have and are, more or less, good enough.

The only way I know of to get accurate mileage would be to push a
surveyors mileage wheel, or if pedometers are accurate enough, you could
wear one of them to get a point to point distance fix.

Chance


JD Schaefer wrote: Chance
An excellent resource, thanks. I may be the only one, but when planning
long hikes, the itinerary is based on mileage (0.00-miles) starting at
the trailhead (Campo). If you get a chance, I mean opportunity, is
there an easy way to put in mileage at your waypoints? Or is it obvious
enough from the descriptions that I could input the data myself?
Thanks,
JD


Chance Money wrote:

> Among new hikers, every year there is much fear and uncertainty
concerning the availability of drinking water on the trail. On my 2003 thru
hike I found so little reason for it, that on my 2004 thru-hike I decided to
waypoint the water sources and provide some sort of commentary for them.
>
> The first thing learned from this project was that existing water source
information from the more popular guide books were developed with the year
around hiker in mind. Thru hikers are distinctively different in that we
pass through a given section of the PCT in a very narrow time frame. During
that time frame, generally speaking, there is plenty of water. The only real
problem is Oregon because we pass through there at the end of the summer and
many sources have dried up by then.
>
> The second thing learned from this project was that only the major water
sources are listed by these popular guide books. There are a vast number of
tiny trickles totally sufficient for the needs of thru hikers. So many in
fact that it becomes difficult to list them. And most of them are cleaner
than the big listed water sources.
>
> The third thing learned from this project is that the water trail angels
have no ready means of coordinating their efforts or of keeping the hikers
up dated to new developments. This is particularly true of one time only
trail angels who have limited time and means to do something for the hikers.
>
> I decided to enter my collected data from the 2004 hike in the form of a
Wiki so that the PCT hiking / riding community could update the listings on
their own. Have a look to see if this is something that is useful to you or
something you would be interested in contributing to. The content is
currently focused on water but the format allows many other data sets to be
included. On my 2006 hike I will be posting the locations of trail confusion
points where the trail fades out or signage is damaged or missing. Chai Guy
has kindly allowed his hot springs list to be posted.
>
> http://www.seedwiki.com/wiki/pct_open_trail_directory
>
>Chance
>
>
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