[pct-l] RE: Bear cannisters, etc. Now:BearVault Not Allowed In SEKI

[mdupont717 at hotmail.com (Michael DuPont)]

Why are bears so funny looking?


>From: "bearvault" <sales@bearvault.com>
>To: "'Mike Saenz'" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>,"'Wacky Wack'" 
><w_wack@yahoo.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] RE: Bear cannisters, etc. Now:BearVault Not Allowed In 
>SEKI
>Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:37:16 -0700
>
>As we have said in our prior postings, in this one area of SEKI they are
>not allowing several canisters, ours included.  If you return you
>canister to REI, we will then reimburse REI the money they paid us.
>The SIBBG has said there is no change in status due to this problem
>area; if it spreads they will reconsider. There is a lot of
>misinformation floating around and the SIBBG is the authority on these
>matters.
>
>Jamie
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Saenz [mailto:msaenz@mve-architects.com]
>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:45 AM
>To: Wacky Wack; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net; bearvault
>Subject: Was: Bear cannisters, etc. Now:BearVault Not Allowed In SEKI
>
>Just got back from my Rae Lakes Loop Hike. I'll let y`all know the
>details as soon as I get through the 400+ e-mails and 150+ voice
>messages.....
>
>BUT-
>
>Upon arrival at the trailhead (Road's End), I was informed that the
>BearVault cans are now not allowed in SEKI. The Vidette Meadow bear has
>now popped over 20 BearVault cans...
>
>At the Ranger shack, they're lending Garcia cans for free to BearVault
>owners.
>
>We didn't encounter a single bear in seven days (there WAS plenty of
>bear "evidence" around). We found and used the bear boxes that were at
>virtually every campsite.
>
>BearVault- I purchased my BV300 specifically for this trip. And now
>they're not allowed at SEKI, and more than one Ranger familiar with the
>Vidette situation indicated that SIBBG may revoke BearVault approval (I
>just got back and have not researched or confirmed this).
>My question to BearVault: If SIBBG revokes approval, will BearVault
>offer refunds?
>
>I noticed that BearVault.com has a notice dated 8/20 regarding this
>issue. The Rangers in SEKI are not "requesting" that hikers not use
>BearVaults. I didn't have a choice. They made us transfer everything
>from our BearVaults into the Garcia cans before we started our hike.
>
>
>Michael Saenz, Associate Partner
>McLarand    Vasquez    Emsiek   &   Partners,   Inc.
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Wacky Wack
>Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:45 PM
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [BULK] - RE: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Bear cannisters, etc.
>
>C'mon guys, this is funny, but seriousely, I would like to know what
>kind of food to stuff on that will fit into a canister :)
>
>Mike Saenz <msaenz@mve-architects.com> wrote:Well, you know when you're
>in black bear country by the bits of trash and pieces of shattered
>BearVaults mixed in with the berries and small rodents within the piles
>of bear crap found in the wilderness....
>In grizzly country, the piles have little bells and smell of pepper
>spray!
>
>Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
>(I couldn't resist!)
>
>I'm outta here! Gonna track down that BearVault-bustin' bear in Vedette
>Meadow!
>
>-Oilcan
>
>Michael Saenz, Associate Partner
>McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
>A r c h i t e c t u r e | P l a n n i n g | I n t e r i o r s MVE MVE
>Institutional MVP International w w w . m v e - a r c h i t e c t s . c
>o m
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of
>dsaufley@sprynet.com
>Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:42 PM
>To: Sharon & Chuck Chelin; Wacky Wack; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Bear cannisters, etc.
>
>Can't substantiate whether it's true or not, but just last night I was
>talking with a friend who said that some bears actually LIKE the sprays,
>especially the pepper spray. Anyone heard of that?
>
>L-Rod
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sharon & Chuck Chelin
>Sent: Sep 1, 2005 8:21 PM
>To: Wacky Wack , pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bear cannisters, etc.
>
>Good evening, Ms./Mr. Wack,
>
>When someone asks me if they will be safe if they carry a can of bear
>spray my usual reply is, "That all depends on how fast you can carry
>it."
>
>Steel-Eye
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wacky Wack"
>To:
>
>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:08 PM
>Subject: [pct-l] Bear cannisters, etc.
>
>
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I am planning a JMT hike in september, but I have never hiked through
>areas with high bear activity, and Yosemite's reputation naturally makes
>me a bit apprehensive.
> >
> > Has anyone rented a canister from the park service there? Can you
>tell me
>please how wide its opening is, so I can plan for what food to bring?
>What
>do you do with things like cooking pots and the backpack - things that
>may potentially smell of food, although there is none inside. I would
>like to keep them in my tent because I wouldn't want the backpack to
>remain outside, even on a tree.
> >
> > Would you recommend to get bear-spray? If so, what brand/where to get
>it?
>And lastly, if you can shed any light on how to bring a stove on an
>airplane, it would be great. Last time I tried this, it was confiscated
>from me by the airline.
> >
> > Any other tips on the area are appreciated and welcome!
> >
> >
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