[pct-l] BearVault status in a portion of SEKI

[sales at bearvault.com (sales@bearvault.com)]

When we put the URL link to our web site tonight you can see the actual official
letter; this spells out how many failures of what manufacturer there have
been.

Jamie


Quoting alec <amr10009@yahoo.com>:

> i'm just back from a 25 day trip on the JMT and it's interesting to see read
> about all of these developments.  it became apparent to me and others while
> on the trail that the bearvault cannisters are not working.  a friend met
> someone last year in the sierras who had lost all of his food in a bearvault
> that didn't live up to its name.  i chalked this up to "user error."
>  
> last week, while meeting this same friend at the top of kearsarge pass for a
> resupply, we ran into a charlotte lake ranger (a tall skinny guy with the
> longest legs i've ever seen) who asked us what type of cannisters we were
> using.  when we replied that we were carrying garcia cannisters, he replied,
> "good."  he said that there had been 10 bearvault failures in the last 2
> weeks.  i can't substantiate the truth of this assertion, but this is what
> the ranger said.  
>  
> i understand that there are some technical manufacturing anomolies with the
> bearvault cannisters and i understand that some of these purported failures
> may be due to user error.  when i broached the issue of user error with the
> ranger, he said that in the past he had found it easier to accept this
> explanation, but that now the rate of failure seemed to indicate otherwise.
>  
> in my opinion, a high rate of user error leading to repeated failures
> indicates a serious overall problem with the product.  if so many people are
> failing to properly secure their bearvaults, that says to me that there is
> something wrong with the design of the cannisters.  i've never heard of a
> user failing to be able to open or close a garcia cannister.
>  
> perhaps the folks at bearvault should go back to the drawing board.  i think
> they have a great concept with a lexan cannister, but they need to rethink
> the lid/locking mechanism.  when they do so, i will be the first to purhase
> one.
>     
>  
>    
> 
> 
> Mike Saenz <msaenz@mve-architects.com> wrote:
> Great.
> I'll be in this exact area week after next...
> 
> And my new BV300 is grizzly approved???
> (maybe the Rae Lakes Loop yogis are just "smaaarrrtter than the average
> bear!")
> 
> To BearVault: Send me an extra BV300 and I'll stuff it with smoked
> bacon, slather steak sauce on it and leave it out to see just how well
> it performs... Of course, I'll follow the directions and secure the lid
> properly...
> 
> I better catch a lot of fish.
> 
> 
> Michael Saenz, Associate Partner
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of bearvault
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:48 PM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [BULK] - [pct-l] BearVault status in a portion of SEKI
> 
> We wanted to let you know of a development that affects the use of the
> certain bear canisters in a specific area of the Sierra. The Kearsarge
> Lakes/Charlotte Lake/Upper Bubbs Creek areas have had several BearVaults
> and Bearikades broken into by a bear(s). At this time these incidents
> are isolated to this specific area and possibly one or more bears. Due
> to the local and specific nature of these incidents the enclosed
> document was sent out by the Whitney Ranger Station concerning this
> area. BearVault is obtaining several of the canisters from the
> incidents in this area in an effort to determine the cause of the
> failures. 
> 
> The Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group has pointed out that at this
> time this does not affect the approval status of any BearVault models.
> The local rangers will attempt to tag the suspected bear(s) and observe
> its behavior during interactions with bear canisters put in the area to
> observe what is happening.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
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