I've hiked through the Sierra after snow melt, 1.5 weeks without DEET. :-) All I was begging for was the Vermillion Burger. Toes >I have to believe that anyone who is "DEET averse" > has not walked through the Sierra or through Oregon > after the snow melt. I've seen the most granola-hippie > hikers practically beg for DEET from other hikers in > the Sierra. > > yogi > www.pcthandbook.com