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Hi Donna

Never met the guy. Missed him by one day.  I felt very tight with, and I am
one of those, he wrote about.   I don't like what he wrote.  I like you and
I feel you're a great judge of character among other great qualities you
posess.  I don't like what he wrote.  

Monty


> [Original Message]
> From: <dsaufley@sprynet.com>
> To: <metam01@earthlink.net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Date: 1/8/2005 11:38:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] News links
>
> Monty, I know you're mad about the article.  But I see it another way.  
>
> It really doesn't matter what you did back in the real world, or what
you're going to do when you get back.  The Trail is the great equalizer,
and the more immersed the hiker is their thru-hike, the more detached they
are from those past or future existences.  So, in a sense, everyone out for
the long haul on the trail is simply a thru-hiker, nothing more, nothing
less.  If they're lawyers, they're not lawyering; they're
dirty/hungry/thirsty/awed just like the next person.  Same for doctors,
teachers, pilots, students, whatever. I say with the greatest respect and
deepest love that they're all dirty, stinky, hiker trash (and proud of it).
This is the very essence of what I love so much about our experience with
the thru-hikers; it is the antithesis of the rest of society which is all
about what you do, what you drive, and where you live.  On the Trail, who
bleepin' cares???  Honestly, section hikers are the only ones who talk
about their outside lives and financial identities unasked.
>
> I can really understand what this well-intentioned "outsider" saw in his
brief observations of the hiking community while here.  He saw only the
wonderful, bohemian existence of the moment for the folks he met.  It's
like the blind man feeling and describing the elephant; he only describes
that which he senses.  
>
> The PCT, and the hikers upon it, are like many-faceted jewels.  Depending
on how you hold it up, the light will change its appearance and beauty. 
Chris only saw a few facets, but he really enjoyed it.  He took the time to
try to be a part of it.  His approach was open and full of wonder.  And he
exaggerated or lied about nothing.  Like it or not, to the uneducated or
oblivious outsider, hikers really appear to be unemployed bums on a lark. 
I'd say it's a badge of honor -- wear it with pride. 
>
> -=Donna Saufley=-
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monty Tam <metam01@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Jan 7, 2005 6:35 PM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] News links
>
>
> Author of an LA Times article?  Was that the guy who wrote the article
> depicting thru-hikers as mangy dogs, homeless and unemployed, while where
> he did his research(Sauffley's) there were quire a few productive and even
> successful hikers there at the time.(Two contractors, a medical secretary,
> a wherhouse manager for a large toy distributor, a physical theripist, and
> even a doctor and his overly brilliant son.  Most of these people own
their
> own homes.  (Guess I'm still a little pissed)
>
> If I were that guy, I wouldn't send it out either after some of the flack
I
> know he received.  (It, buy the way was on this list.)
>
> As far as copyrights, I doubt newspapers send every paper to the Library
of
> Congress with the $30 standard fee and paperwork.  They could possibly do
a
> poor man's copyright(mail it to themselves).  Or nothing at all, which
> would leave a lot of gray areas.  It's very common in the media (TV news
> and documentries,and in print) to see photos of articles.  Permission
> required?  
> I love to have my stuff in print and performed by just about anyone.  My
> copyrights reserve me the right to say "time to negotiate" if someone
> starts making money with my works.
>  
> Gray areas..........................................Someone might say
> "Don't", but who's going to sue a mangy hiker?  I mean a hiker.
>
> Warner Springs Monty
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Robert Ellinwood <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: Chuckie V <rubberchuckie@yahoo.com>; PCT MailingList
> <pct-l@backcountry.net>
> > Cc: <pmags@yahoo.com>
> > Date: 1/7/2005 2:47:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: [pct-l] News links
> >
> >
> >
> > > Of couse, this might be infringement...I know nothing about copyright
> > laws, but can't imagine
> > > a "newspaper" article posted on the Internet isn't fair game enough to
> > share on a forum.
> >
> > I'd err on the side of suspecting it's not fair game.  All I know is
that
> > the actual author of an article in the LA Times could not and would not
> send
> > me a copy, citing that it would be illegal.
> >
> > Dr Bob
> >
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