[BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent - condensation

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

Well, there you have it!
Haven't been to Vancouver or the Netherlands (yet!).
And almost ALL of my experience with my Slickrock is in California
(where it never rains- or so the song goes, and it's usually
bone-freakin'-dry). Correct me if I'm wrong, but humidity isn't so much
the issue as much as temperature. In other words, if it's cold outside,
the moisture from your breath will condensate on the cold walls of the
tent. As I don't have much experience in humid climes, I never have a
condensation problem in my Slickrock.
Last month, Erik Yakel and I camped below Combs Peak in windy and dry
weather. I borrowed my brother-in-law's Mt Hardware Waypoint to cut my
base weight for the long mile weekend. Though it was very windy and very
dry outside, the inside of the Waypoint was dripping wet... Mostly
because I blocked what little ventilation the tent had. It was also
fairly cold that night.
Seems the only cure for condensation is more ventilation. If the
moisture generated from within can escape to the outside, there's less
moisture to condensate on the inside?


M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Saskia Daru
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:04 AM
To: PCT list
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent -
condensation

Hi Mike,

I have a Tarptent Squall, a Tarptent Cloudburst, a TNF Slickrock and a
Moss Stardome. All of them will have lots of moisture when camping in
e.g Vancouver Island or the Netherlands. There is just a lot of moisture
in the air. On the JMT this summer condensation was not an issue at all.

The Slickrock has a bathtub floor and has half netting half single wall.
The single wall part and the floor will have lots of moisture when we
camp in the winter/spring/fall in the Netherlands.
Because this is our experience, we now have sleeping bags with an
Endurance coating. Wonderful not to have to worry too much about the
down getting wet anymore.

The Cloudburst, by the way, is already better at handling condensation,
with two people inside, than the Squall. Basically because it is - and
feels - a lot roomier. I'd constantly brush my hips against the fabric
in the Squall.
If there would be any condensation at all, it would come down on us. I
have wide hips and tend to crawl deeper into the lower back part of the
tent at night. I also tend to sleep on my side.

Saskia


> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:27:33 -0800
> To: "Marshall Karon" <m.karon@comcast.net>, "Brett" 
> <blisterfree@isp01.net>, <metam01@earthlink.net>, "pct-l" 
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Cc: so_california_backpackers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent - condensation
> 
> I'd agree with #1.
> #2, however, conflicts with #1- in that- if you have a very well 
> ventilated tent and the temps don't get too low, you won't condensate.
> #5: NOW I know why I always get wet when I pitch my tent IN a lake...
> #7- As most of y'all know, I have a TNF Slickrock. Probably the most 
> well ventilated tent I've seen. Not great in windy conditions, cuz the

> side vents behind it's vestivbule wings scoop the wind and drive it 
> inside...but I NEVER get condesation inside this tent!
> 
> 
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
> 

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