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[BULK] - Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
I was wondering if I really need to carry a bear can while riding my dirt
bike in the Sierra? The only place I can carry it is where I mount my gun
holster for my 9 mm Ruger.
Tic
David D.
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:From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-
:bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Mike Saenz
:Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:13 PM
:To: Kraig Mottar; dsaufley@sprynet.com; eyakel@earthlink.net; Jeff
:Moorehead; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
:Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
:
:Yeah, tough crowd....
:
:Hey! I Know!!!! Let's talk about Bear Cans!
:
:;)
:
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:-----Original Message-----
:From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
:[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Kraig Mottar
:Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:04 PM
:To: dsaufley@sprynet.com; eyakel@earthlink.net; Jeff Moorehead;
:pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
:Subject: [BULK] - Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
:
:I triggered nerves. Now there are people who hate and fear me, you don't
:need to. The first post on this thread was intended to learn what the
:rules were, not as a threat. I do not intend to break any rules. When I
:was told of the rules against bikes I expressed disagreement which was
:interpreted as attempted hostility. If it were I'd still be going on
:about it and throwing out insults, etc.
:So you can rest assured that I am no threat, so you can put down the
:weapons and turn off the alarm. :-)
:
:Kraig
:
:
:> From: dsaufley@sprynet.com
:> Date: 2004/12/03 Fri AM 10:44:38 PST
:> To: eyakel@earthlink.net, Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>,
:> pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
:> Subject: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
:>
:> I am a mountain biker and have worked with the trail crew, and hosted
:them, and will continue to do so for the remainder of my years. I say
:with love in my heart to please be careful of broad generalizations
:about this or any other community. There are boneheads everywhere,
:including in the hiking community. Trust me, they've stayed here.
:>
:> I have also heard that there were reputed to have been a few who have
:volunteered to help with PCT maintenance (per Pete Fish's crew who
:maintain from the southern terminus to Kennedy Meadows).
:>
:> I want to state that I think Kraig's question was an innocent and
:honest one. Outsiders -- defined by me as those who are oblivious to
:the world of long distance hiking, which is pretty much everyone outside
:of the hikers themselves and their immediate family and friends -- don't
:have a clue what the whole deal is about.
:>
:> I was a mountain-biker for years before I knew the PCT and all of you
:existed. If I'd heard about or come upon the PCT, it would have been a
:natural thing to want to ride it, and to ask questions about it. I
:would also want to disobey that rule because it appears incomprehensible
:and unfair from the mountain biker's perspective. This is obviously the
:best trail EVER, bar none. It makes bikers salivate, and God, I'd love
:to ride it (but I won't). Now, one can categorize the mountain bikers as
:a community that often breaks the rules, but please ask yourself how
:many in the hiking community break the rules about bear cans, and
:sleeping with their food -- also potentially dangerous behaviors that
:could impact the safety of others in the long haul. There's a comment
:to start a war!
:>
:> Let's seek to educate the outsiders and newcomers, and to see and
:share the unique view of this community. It's our best hope for the
:future of The Trail.
:>
:> -=Donna Saufley=-
:>
:> -----Original Message-----
:> From: eyakel@earthlink.net
:> Sent: Dec 3, 2004 8:21 AM
:> To: Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>,
:> pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
:> Subject: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
:>
:> I have yet to meet a Mountain Biker who participated in a trail work
:crew.
:> Just food for thought.
:>
:> -----Original Message-----
:> From: Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
:> Sent: Dec 2, 2004 5:25 PM
:> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
:> Subject: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
:>
:> Kraig,
:> It's not just a single, thin tread of tire creating the erosion. You
:> know as well as I do that there is an awful lot braking and sliding on
:
:> rapid descents. That causes major erosion! And then there is just the
:> attendant lack of concern for this effect when you know it is
:> happening but you want to preserve your rights. I went mountain biking
:
:> in the Lagunas one time and felt pretty bad knowing how much erosion
:> that one descent caused. Never again in a semi-pristine area. I don't
:> care if it is allowed, I won't do
:> it-- it scars the landscape. Land boarding, too. Don't get me started
:> with that...
:>
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