[BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

Shoot...
After a few oilcans, who counting miles???

;)

I know what you mean re wet down...
Spent six hours next to Blue Lakes, under Mt Sneffels, CO in the
absolute worse storm I've ever seen...
The lake rose 2 feet during the night...
The sound of rock slides (VW Bug size boulders) with timber snapping (we
were AT treeline..) is a sound I want to forget.
At one point I had 2" of water running under my tent (waterbed!).

My North Face Slickrock stood it's ground, but the water was splashing
up from underneath the fly and up over the bathtub floor and through the
mesh wall...

I had my pack and rain gear up against the mesh wall and hoping to God
my bag stayed dry (it did), cuz I still had 5 days left to depend on
it...

August in Colorado...damn drought.

Anyway- my goal is to put together an ultralight kit to do the local
forests her in SoCal during the mild months. I won't expect to get
extreme weather around here...

The lighter the better the remoter the hiker...


M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Steve
Courtway
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:04 PM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags

you gotta have pretty big shoulders for distance hiking with
oilcans......

I got so nervous sleeping in a 30 degree marmot hydrogen downbag in an
open
shires tarptent last Sierra hike (I was up there in late June this year
and
encountered some very wet conditions this time around) btwx condensation
and
misting, I'd think twice about any serious distances with down, and may
go
back to synthetic in the future.  'cause I love them tarptents hahaha.

s.c

.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "Steve Peterson" <steve_peterson@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags


> Oh ya...call me Ah-nold....
>
> No, don't have huge shoulders...
>
> I'm currently snoozing in a Sierra Designs Van Winkle Flex. 15 degree
> down bag with 72" inch girth. I simply LOVE the roomy feeling of being
> able to sleep in any position, yet be snug and warm on chilly nights
> (I'm in a tent, too).
>
> Here, yet again, I keep falling back into my lux habits....
>
> I'm making up a wish list of my dream ultralight kit and was thinking
> quilt for it's lightweight and roomy properties.
> I most likely won't use an ultralight kit for cold weather (I do 90%
of
> my hiking in SoCal). I could get used to the smaller bags and traps if
> it will get me into running shoes and bigger mile days.
>
> I gotta catch up to my buddy, Bill.
>
> I'll NEVER give up my oilcan, though...
>
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Peterson [mailto:steve_peterson@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: Mike Saenz
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags
>
> I used a Nunatak quilt on my JMT trip; bags before that. The quilt
will
> give you
> lots of shoulder room on warm nights, but on really cold ones you'll
> want to
> wrap it tightly around you to keep the drafts down. I'm not sure why
you
> want
> the 70" shoulder girth--do you like the loose fit or are your
shoulders
> huge? If
> you like the loose fit, I don't think the quilt is for you, since a
> loose fit
> seems to allow a lot of drafts. If your shoulders are huge, then
Nunatak
> will be
> happy to custom-make you an extra large quilt.
>
>   My quilt (larger than "Medium", smaller than "Long") weighs 22 oz,
is
> rated at
> 20F, but wasn't quite warm enough for me even at 32 (but I wasn't in a
> tent, it
> was pretty breezy even on the calmest nights, and the humidity was
> extremely
> low, so maybe it was the environment (or me), rather than the quilt's
> rating
> that's at fault).
>
> Mike Saenz wrote:
> > Oh, I didn't mention: I was looking for the one that had something
> like
> > 70"+ shoulder girth...(yeah, I want it all and I want it NOW...).
> >
> > I mentioned to Ron that I liked the new tent, but then asked about a
> > bathtub floor....
> > I really WANT to put together an ultralight kit, but I just can't
seem
> > to shake some of my lux habits...(the oilcan stays...)
> >
> > Ok. I looked at the Western Mountaineering bags. Nice stuff! 14 oz
for
> a
> > 3-season bag!
> >
> > What about the quilts? Light and all the girth I could ever want?
> >
> > M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> > McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> > A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> > w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Willett [mailto:CWillett@pierce.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:12 PM
> > To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net; Mike Saenz
> > Subject: RE: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags
> >
> > Try Western Mountaineering at www.westernmountaineering.com
> >
> > The Highlite (40 degrees) weighs in at 19 oz. in the 6' 6" version.
> It
> > certainly was not optimal for the High Sierra, but good enough for
> SoCal
> > and from Sierra City north.  I finished in Canada in late August, so
I
> > didn't have to contend with cold or bad weather up north.  If I was
to
> > do it again, I'd bring my Ultralight, which weighs in at 1 lb 15 oz
in
> > the large size and is good to 20 degrees.  I'd probably start with
it
> > and carry it until Sierra City, then switch into the Highlite for
the
> > rest of the trip, possibly picking up the Ultralight again in
> Washington
> > if I was running late.  I have reviews of both bags at
> > http://whiteblaze.net.  Look in the Gear Reviews section.  The
> Highlite
> > review was written last year and so will be a bit buried, but the
> > Ultralight review I wrote recently.  The posts would be under the
user
> > name of chris.
> >
> > Suge
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > Christopher Willett
> > cwillett@pierce.ctc.edu
> > Pierce College
> > 9401 Farwest Drive SW.
> > Lakewood, WA. 98498-1999
> >
> >
> >>----------
> >>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net on behalf of Mike
> >
> > Saenz
> >
> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:53 PM
> >>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> >>Subject: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Sleeing Bags
> >>
> >>Not too long ago, there was a web link to some REALLY light sleeping
> >>bags.
> >>Does anyone have those links? Or recommendations on bags vs quilts?
> >>
> >>M i c h a e l   "O i l c a n "  S a e n z
> >>McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> >>A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
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