[pct-l] any PCT hikers on this list who live in the San Francisco, East Bay Area?

[natalie at addis.com (natalie zensius)]

Hi, I'm a list lurker :) planning to hike the California section of the 
PCT with my husband.  Thing is, we're busy raising two teenagers so it 
will be a couple of years until we can get out on the trail for that 
stretch of time. In the meantime, as I continue to watch the list and 
learn from all of you embarking on the journey before me, I was 
wondering if there are any fellow hikers on this list who live in our 
area that we could connect with for hikes, story swapping, gear ideas 
and trips etc.

Best
Natalie Zensius

On Aug 30, 2004, at 10:03 AM, pct-l-request@mailman.backcountry.net 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:07:55 -0700
> From: Eric Kaufman <radpin@gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] hello fellow outdoors people!
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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> I've read through some of the archives on this list, and I thought I
> would say hello and introduce myself. My name is Eric, I'm 26, live in
> San Diego, and will be attempting a thru-hike in 2005. I have a friend
> who may or may not be able to go with me, which should get cleared up
> in a couple of weeks.
>
> Additionally, I've heard of how many other people you bump into along
> the way, although I am starting a bit late (May 30th 2005; it's when
> my semester is over).
>
> I've been backpacking and climbing since I was 12, mainly up in the
> high desert / sierras, and then in New England (Presidential / White
> Mountains) when I was in the Navy out there.
>
> If anyone needs any support in the San Diego area, let me know. I know
> the town pretty well, live in downtown (near the airport, bus station,
> major trolley station, and train station), and am eager to be a part
> of the great hospitality that I've heard so much of.
>
> Anyway, that's me, and there you go :-) Anyone else heading out in 
> 2005?
>
>
> http://www.radpin.com
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:38:48 -0700
> From: "Joe Percival" <djpercival@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] hello fellow outdoors people!
> To: "'Eric Kaufman'" <radpin@gmail.com>,
> 	<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Hi, Eric (et al).
> My name is Joe.  I'm 52 (twice your age ... yikes!).  I am also 
> planning on
> a thru hike in 05.  I also live in the San Diego area (Poway to be 
> precise).
> I started a training routine a few months back but have taken a few 
> weeks
> off after returning from a few days on the JMT.
> If anyone is interested in getting together for some morning or evening
> jaunts up Iron Mtn and / or Mt Woodsen (from the west side), let me 
> know.  I
> am hoping to get in between 9 and 12 miles per day with overloaded 
> pack at a
> medium pace (3 mph+ avg).
> Good luck on the hike!
> BTW, even if you are not starting with the pack, I would still highly
> recommend that you attend the ADZPCTKO.
> joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Eric 
> Kaufman
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:08 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] hello fellow outdoors people!
>
> I've read through some of the archives on this list, and I thought I
> would say hello and introduce myself. My name is Eric, I'm 26, live in
> San Diego, and will be attempting a thru-hike in 2005. I have a friend
> who may or may not be able to go with me, which should get cleared up
> in a couple of weeks.
>
> Additionally, I've heard of how many other people you bump into along
> the way, although I am starting a bit late (May 30th 2005; it's when
> my semester is over).
>
> I've been backpacking and climbing since I was 12, mainly up in the
> high desert / sierras, and then in New England (Presidential / White
> Mountains) when I was in the Navy out there.
>
> If anyone needs any support in the San Diego area, let me know. I know
> the town pretty well, live in downtown (near the airport, bus station,
> major trolley station, and train station), and am eager to be a part
> of the great hospitality that I've heard so much of.
>
> Anyway, that's me, and there you go :-) Anyone else heading out in 
> 2005?
>
>
> http://www.radpin.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:15:20 -0700
> From: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>
> Subject: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
> To: "pctl (E-mail)" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> I checked recently via the Mt. Hood NF website on trail conditions for 
> the
> Timberline Trail. It says that the bridge across the Sandy River 
> accessing
> Ramona Falls had been washed out, but will soon be replaced. In a 
> confusing
> note, however, it also says that this will not affect either the 
> Timberline
> Trail or the PCT.
>
> Isn't the trail that goes past Ramona Falls, around Yocum Ridge, and 
> across
> the Muddy Fork the PCT? The website makes it seems that it is not. So 
> what's
> the actual route?
>
> Judson
> Ashland
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:16:34 -0700
> From: "Sharon & Chuck Chelin" <chelin@teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
> To: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>,	"pctl (E-mail)"
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> Good afternoon, Judson,
>
> A few years ago a bad windstorm left a terrible snarl of down timber 
> from
> Ramona, around Yocum towards Muddy Fork.  At that time the PCT was 
> rerouted
> to continue following the Sandy River rather than passing Ramona Falls.
> There is a trail fork near the old Upper Sandy Guard station, and 
> instead of
> turning east toward Ramona, the PCT continues NW along what is known 
> locally
> as the Sandy River Trail.  This trail is close to the Sandy on its east
> bank.  About 1.5 miles from the Ramona fork, there is another trail 
> fork.
> The PCT turns right along the old Portage Trail and eventually joins 
> the
> original PCT route near Bald Mtn. Shelter.
>
> If you turn west at that Portage Trail intersection you will 
> immediately
> cross the Sandy River and go a couple of miles towards a trailhead 
> parking
> area.  The bridge outage is at that crossing rather than on the PCT or
> Timberline Trail.  The location of that non-bridge is approximately:
> N45.39059  W121.80837.
>
> The Yocum/Muddy Fork tread is now open, or was about a year ago when I 
> last
> hiked the Timberline Trail, but the upper Muddy Creek fords are always 
> a
> pain.  I say "fords" because, depending upon the season, there are 
> three to
> five branches to cross in the 400-500 yards of canyon bottom.  The 
> lower
> crossing of the Muddy on the Portage Trail, I believe, has a bridge.
>
> There is an option if you want to cool-off at Ramona.  Immediately 
> past the
> falls there is a fork in the trail.  Go right uphill for Yocum 
> Ridge/Muddy
> Fork, or continue left on the east bank of Ramona Creek.  This is the 
> other
> part of the Ramona Loop Trail.  It parallels the Sandy River Trail 
> (PCT) and
> joins the Portage Trail very near the lower Muddy Creek bridge.  At 
> one time
> this section was part of the PCT as well.
>
> The recently-reported hiker fatality was about 0.5 miles upstream from 
> the
> Ramona junction where the PCT and Timberline Trails cross the Sandy 
> where it
> is joined by Rushing Water Creek.  The flooding that took the Sandy 
> bridge
> also took the rustic logs that hikers often use to cross.  Apparently 
> she
> fell during crossing and was carried downstream to drown.
>
> This is a beautiful trail.  Enjoy...
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>
> To: "pctl (E-mail)" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:15 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
>
>
>> I checked recently via the Mt. Hood NF website on trail conditions 
>> for the
>> Timberline Trail. It says that the bridge across the Sandy River 
>> accessing
>> Ramona Falls had been washed out, but will soon be replaced. In a
> confusing
>> note, however, it also says that this will not affect either the
> Timberline
>> Trail or the PCT.
>>
>> Isn't the trail that goes past Ramona Falls, around Yocum Ridge, and
> across
>> the Muddy Fork the PCT? The website makes it seems that it is not. So
> what's
>> the actual route?
>>
>> Judson
>> Ashland
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:26:43 -0700
> From: "Mark Wiltrakis" <trackus@teleport.com>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
> To: "'Judson Brown'" <judson@jeffnet.org>,	"'pctl (E-mail)'"
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> Judson -
>
> The route encircling Mt Hood is comprised of the Timberline Trail 
> (#600) and
> PCT (#2000) making a 41 mile loop. If starting at Timberline Lodge 
> (6000'
> elevation) and doing the loop in a clockwise direction, the PCT drops 
> down
> to 2800' or so to cross the Sandy River in 9.4 miles. There is no 
> bridge at
> this crossing. Ramona Falls is less than a mile further, on Loop trail 
> #797.
> To get off the trail and to cars parked at the Ramona Falls parking 
> lot is
> about 2 miles further on 797, then out 1.5 miles on #770. I think this 
> is
> where the reference to the washed out bridge applies - I think this 
> trail
> crosses the Sandy on a bridge.
>
> I did the loop in counter-clockwise direction last weekend. I crossed 
> the
> Sandy at 2 PM Saturday and it was about 18" deep and no problem. A 
> downpour
> began 9 PM Saturday, and continued. More than 10" of rain fell 
> thereafter,
> and crossing the Sandy then would have been frightening-at-best. I 
> gotta
> believe this is what happened to the woman who died there on Monday. 
> She was
> hiking solo, so the details will never be known.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:55:29 -0700
> From: "Cathy" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] pct I-10 to Mission Creek
> To: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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> Clear Day
> -----Hi just got in from the trail. I started from the I-10 on 
> Thursday at 1400 hrs.and finished at Mission Creek trail camp this 
> morning, Sunday the 29th at 0800 hrs. Yes I am slow but I made it even 
> with the 102 degrees Friday afternoon, thank GOD for umbrellas. I 
> followed the PCT day hikes book. Never do this hike in August and 
> never start in the late afternoon! I did enjoy this a lot even though 
> I was alone. One thing about the day hikes book, they say, "gradually 
> climbs the last 7.2 miles" there is no gradual from 1360' elevation up 
> to 7965' and my GPS said 8013' where my car was parked at the trail 
> head at Mission Creek. At this time of year a lot of the trail was 
> overgrown and hard to find. Whitewater was flowing beautifully and so 
> was Mission Creek. Thank GOD for that I resupplied water four times. I 
> definitely have to cut my base weight of 35lbs, that and my water, I 
> was pushing 55lbs. I can't believe how many PCT posts are all chopped 
> up. What did somebody need fire
>   wood? I give a lot of credit to those of you who keep the trail up. 
> I don't know how you can do the hike and then work too. Well all in 
> all it was a good hike and I am very happy to be able to say I did it 
> especially in august.            HYOH   yours truly   Ground Pounder 
> Bill      60yrs +
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:06:43 -0400
> From: "Jason Waicunas" <pct2005@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] RE: PCT Guide Inquiry.
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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> To All-
> What are the most current editions of the PCT guide books by Wilderness
> Press?  Are there any new editions in the works and/or being published 
> soon?
>   Thank you all for your recent responses to my question about packs; 
> I'm
> currently researching/testing various models you have recommended.
> -Jason (NaborJ.)
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:44:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: ecpg <ecpg@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
> To: Judson Brown <judson@jeffnet.org>,	"pctl (E-mail)"
> 	<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Just to clarify since this area is my volunteer route for Wilderness 
> Steward, there are two places in this area where you can cross the 
> Sandy River. The PCT2000/#600 trail around the mountain has no bridge. 
> It is almost 3 miles up from the parking lot for the Ramona Falls 
> trail loop and about 1/2 mile from the falls.  It is subject to rapid 
> water height changes since it is glacier fed. This has never been 
> bridged and people cross on logs or ford it. It is considered a 
> potentially dangerous water crossing. This is where the hiker was 
> killed.
>
> The other Sandy River crossing is 3/4 of a mile up the Rqamona Falls 
> trail from the parking lot and has a temporary bridge from about May 
> to October. This bridge washed out this spring but was replaced within 
> about a week or so. This is the bridge referred to in the FS website.
>
> The lower Muddy Fork crossing going up to Bald Mountain outside the 
> Wilderness boundary now has a temporary bridge as the old one got 
> undercut and fell last year. The upper Muddy Fork which is the "old" 
> PCT/Timberline trail is not bridged and is also considered potentially 
> hazarous.
>
> All this is very confusing when you are looking at the signs as the FS 
> has the lower route marked as the PCT mostly because stock is not 
> allowed on the upper #600 trail.
>
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judson Brown <judson@jeffnet.org>
> Sent: Aug 29, 2004 6:15 PM
> To: "pctl (E-mail)" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] pct around mt. hood?
>
> I checked recently via the Mt. Hood NF website on trail conditions for 
> the
> Timberline Trail. It says that the bridge across the Sandy River 
> accessing
> Ramona Falls had been washed out, but will soon be replaced. In a 
> confusing
> note, however, it also says that this will not affect either the 
> Timberline
> Trail or the PCT.
>
> Isn't the trail that goes past Ramona Falls, around Yocum Ridge, and 
> across
> the Muddy Fork the PCT? The website makes it seems that it is not. So 
> what's
> the actual route?
>
> Judson
> Ashland
>
>
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