[pct-l] Bear Cans

[mike at maps.com (Mike Powers)]

Mike,
Perhaps you could retrofit one of your used oilcans!

:)



> On a previous reply to this thread, I indicated that I'd be more
> inclined to attack the costs of these cans. Why, oh WHY does an
> injection mold can cost $70???
> 
> Sure, come up with the idea, do the R&D, write The Plan, front the
> capital for the start-up...
> 
> But if you're REALLY clever, you'd price it for mass sales. I'm balking
> at buying a BV200 because I don't get out to the Sierras as much as I'd
> like.
> I WANT one, but at that price, I'll wait till my next Sierra trip before
> I go through the internal debate again...
> 
> 
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Encisco [mailto:dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov]
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:46 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Re: Bear Cans (the diameter)
> 
> Sorry I really haven't been following this thread because to me it's
> much like setting a speed limit: either you obey or you don't obey,
> your call.
> 
> Nevertheless, since they're now close to being mandated at all major
> trail heads in the Sierra National Parks (and soon to be so for Sierra
> National Forests I'm told), I decided to dig out the Bearikade I
> purchased four years ago; which I've never used, and decided to start
> carrying it this year.  My climbing partner continues to carry his
> Ursack to defy the regulation (he's a registered Libertarian).
> 
> So, when I found that my Bearikade was recalled I sent it back to Wild
> Ideas and they actually replaced it (for $25...but it was recalled!),
> I asked Allen why the diameter of the can had to be so wide. Just an
> inch less would allow me to easily slip the can into my pack; an inch
> and half less would be ideal! Allen told me that his "...tooling for
> table rolling of the cylinders has a fixed diameter. This diameter was
> chosen to defeat Grizzly Bears which have a very wide jaw extent. The
> Bearikade is used in both Grizzly and Black Bear territories."
> 
> Therefore the beef I have with the canister is: why do I have to
> purchase a can that's Grizzly Bear proof? Why can't I just purchase a
> can that's Black Bear proof? Secondly, why does the can even have to
> pass the Grizzly or Polar Bear test at all? Are they planning to
> reintroduce the Grizzly back into the Sierra? That would certainly
> take care of the black bear population. No, this is just another big
> hammer (or big bear) approach. Not an exemplary example of good
> science.
> 
> No bite, just a bark.
> 
> Dave
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