[pct-l] PCT Fires in San Diego Co., CA

[scourtway at bpa-arch.com (Steve Courtway)]

yeah, I wouldn't put lighting bottle rockets at scout camp passed that group
of scouts (looks both ways) that doused their wood with lighter fluid before
the fire starting competition.

s.c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "Craig Milo Rogers" <rogers@isi.edu>
Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] PCT Fires in San Diego Co., CA


> "Ah, well, when I was a Boy Scout... yes, it could have happened.
> :-(  Perhaps supervision is tighter at camps nowadays."
>
>
>
> Yeah, I heard that it was because of some ornery scout named "Craig
> something-or-other" that inspired the new Adult Leader Supervision
> Policies.....
> I hear the Scoutmasters have to carry straight jackets as standard gear
> on campouts!
>
> ;)
>
>
> On a serious note:
>
> Damn, it seems there's more burnt or desert sections of the PCT in
> Southern California than not!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Milo Rogers [mailto:rogers@isi.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:19 PM
> To: Mike Saenz
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Fires in San Diego Co., CA
>
> On 04.07.14, Mike Saenz wrote:
> > Nowhere does it say that Boy Scouts set off the bottle rockets.
> > The fire just happened to have started near the Scout Camp. Started in
> > three separate places, so the article said.
> >
> > Though I know boys will be boys, Scouts are usually a cut above the
> > average in the responsibility department. If nothing else, they're
> well
> > supervised at camps.
> > I'd have a hard time believing Boy Scouts would set off fireworks into
> > dry brush, even accidentally.
>
>
> Even though I typed "near a Boy Scout reservation", per the
> news articles, I mentally interpreted that as "at a Boy Scout
> reservation" and the Utah case parallel sprung to mind.  You are
> right, that's an unwarranted leap; the BSA camp may have simply been a
> open, accessible location for some less-responsible person's
> activities.  Nonetheless, there's been a lot of pressure om the BSA in
> parts of San Diego recently, and the projected parallel (that the BSA
> may be investigated and held responsible regarding the fire) is not
> completely unwarranted given the current political climate.  On
> reflection, though, I apologize for referencing the issue in a jocular
> fashion; that may have been inappropriate.
>
> Jocularity and concern for the Scouts aside, the issues of
> fire safety and who pays for fire suppression and rehabilitation are
> important ones to PCT hikers and trail angels.  There were the two
> Whitewater fires earlier this season; who's paying for that?  When I
> hosted the Bird Spring Pass Resort party this year, I was jittery at
> times about fire safety; some guy wanted to bivy right next to my fuel
> farm, for cryin' out loud!  And as I've pointed out before on this
> list (I believe), certain thruhiker fuel systems might not be legal in
> certain areas (e.g., solid fuel tabs in the Angeles NF), if you take a
> strict interpretation of the fire regulations published on the Web for
> those areas.
>
> Craig "Computer" Rogers
>
>
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