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[pct-l] Arriving into USA this Sunday !



Great suggestion also.

Christine "Ceanothus" Kudija
PCT partially '94

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Trekking Amy
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:37 AM
To: Mike Saenz; Philip McHugh; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Arriving into USA this Sunday !

If you're interested in a Trader Joe's/REI experience in one fell swoop
(close to LAX, no less), go to the REI in Manhattan Beach.  It is at:
1800 Rosecrans Ave Ste E
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
(310) 727-0728

There is a Trader Joe's in the same strip mall -- great, cheap food there.

Once you're there, there is a light rail station pretty close (walk west a
block or so, turn north on Douglas Street and walk to the terminal) that
will take you to Union Station:

Starting at Rosecrans Ave / Aviation Blvd 90245, El Segundo Starting at
Rosecrans Ave / Aviation Blvd 90245, El Segundo -->


Go to Douglas Rosecrans Green Line Station
   Take Metro Rail Green Line North (NORWALK) at 12:57 a.m.
   Pay $1.25 (Monthly Pass: $52)
   Get off at Harbor Frwy I 105 Green Line Station at 1:12 a.m.
Go to Figueroa St Between 117th St / 115th
   Take Metro Bus 45 North (NO BROADWAY MONTEREY) at 1:35 a.m.
   Pay $.75 (Monthly Pass: $52)
   Get off at Broadway / Arcadia St at 2:16 a.m.

Ending at Union Station
Alternative Travel Times:
                                Depature                Arrival
Est. Time                Headsign
{time_table} -->

Total Cost: $2.00
Estimated Travel Time: 1 Hour 19 Minutes



Alternative Travel Times:
                                Depature                Arrival
Est. Time                Headsign
{time_table} -->



Mike Saenz <msaenz@mve-architects.com> wrote:
I've been reading the recent flurry of posts regarding transportation to
The Trail by overseas hikers. The preparation and logistics of a long
trail hike is significant for even us folk who live close to The Trail.
You guys flying in from afar have the additional headache of making your
way to the trail from the major airports AND finishing up your supply
purchases and mail drops between the day you arrive and the time you
plan to start at the trail head! Tough job...

But, as a Southern California native, I'd like to advise to those flying
in of a couple things. Assuming you've never been to California:

1) Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) is NOT near downtown LA. It's
at least a 15 minute drive on the freeway (without heavy traffic, which
is becoming more and more frequent). The last time I had to make my way
into downtown LA from LAX took me an hour during non-peak traffic at
about 10am. This was in my own truck. Public transportation (metrorail,
bus, etc.) will take MUCH longer.
2) Within downtown LA itself, I can't think of ANY place where you can
buy groceries. Sure, there are a few "hole-in-the-wall" mini-markets,
but these won't stock the stuff you'll need for a backpack trip. I don't
believe there are even any supermarkets in the downtown area. You'd have
to drive about 10 minutes outside the downtown area to get to a
supermarket. And beware of the neighborhood you wander into. You'd be
safer heading west/northwest. To the south is "South Central LA". To the
east is "East LA". You'll want to avoid both of these areas. To the
north/northeast is "China Town" (just across the street from Union
Station). A wonderful place, but no stores that supply backpacking
supplies. To the west isn't much better, but you'll find supermarkets
spaced apart about 4-6 miles on major intersections.

I suggest you find a "Trader Joe's", a decent sporting goods retailer
(REI, Sport Chalet), or a big, major supermarket for the types of foods
and supplies you'll want to buy. And unless you're looking for
ethnic/exotic food stuffs that you want to dehydrate yourself, downtown
LA is a bad place to shop for packable food. I could be wrong, and if I
am, and there are places to get this stuff in downtown LA, you'll spend
FOREVER finding these places.

I also suggest that you by-pass LA altogether. The stores I cite above
are more likely to be found in the more affluent suburbs you'll pass
through along the way.
Check out store locations at:
www.rei.com
www.sportchalet.com
www.traderjoes.com

However you plan to get yourself from the airport to the trail, you'd do
well to escape the LA area as soon as possible. Best would be to rent a
car (freedom to shop at will). Or even better would be to have someone
from the area to pick you up from the airport! If you have to take
public transportation, try and plan a stop in the San Fernando Valley.
Here you'll find all the retailers who specialize in backpacking
supplies fairly close to one another.

Good Luck!

M i c h a e l S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
A r c h i t e c t u r e P l a n n i n g I n t e r i o r s
w w w . m v e - a r c h i t e c t s . c o m

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip McHugh [mailto:usaphilip@acr.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:40 AM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Arriving into USA this Sunday !

I am also flying in from overseas (Australia) to hike the JMT
southbound, leaving Yosemite June 21. As I have decided not to attempt
to carry any food into the USA, I will need to supply in downtown Los
Angeles during the "Sunday" before departing from Union Station for
Yosemite Valley. My base pack weight will be around 10 lbs, with a great
effort being made to keep the entire pack weight to no more than 25 lbs.


For my initial supply, which will get me to VVR, could you advise me as
to the best place to pick up backpacking foods in Downtown Los Angeles
on a Sunday. I usually put together my own dehydrated meals and buy
things off the shelf in supermarkets, but this time I might also
consider a few freeze dried backpacker meals. Also, as my resupply will
have to be made up of whatever I can purchase at VVR, can anyone tell me
just what they have available to sustain life until I get to Mt Whitney
?

One last thing. I am aware that the snow melt has come quite early. Is
it still necessary / wise to carry an ice axe ?

Thanks for your assistance

Philip



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