[pct-l] Cat stove

[chelin at teleport.com (Sharon & Chuck Chelin)]

Good evening, Judson,

A PCT hiker who wishes to try their Cat Stove on a real cat neen not pass
near suburban areas to do so.  According to the following text from Yahoo
News, you may find the large, industrial-size product near the trail.  Bring
your big pot, and a few extra jugs of HEET.

Steel-Eye

=============================
U.S. National - AP

4 Apr 04

Study: Mountain Lions Living Stealthily

By SETH HETTENA, Associated Press Writer

CUYAMACA RANCHO STATE PARK, Calif. - New technology is giving scientists a
window into the life of the mountain lion, a hunter so stealthy that the
American Indians called it "the ghost of the Rockies."  The results are
surprising researchers - the big cats are not as leery of urban settings as
had been thought, and they don't necessarily develop an appetite for
domestic livestock.

For the past three years, 20 lions in and around San Diego County's Cuyamaca
Rancho State Park were outfitted with $5,000 Global Positioning System
collars that allowed researchers to trace their nocturnal travels. The
collars' signals showed that mountain lions - also known as cougars or
pumas - were crossing busy highways and just skirting clusters of homes.
"What surprised me the most is the degree of adaptability to what I consider
to be high human activity in puma habitat," said Ken Logan, one of the
researchers on the study and the author of "Desert Puma" based on a decade
of research in New Mexico.

The continuing $200,000-a-year study by the University of California, Davis,
may provide a better understanding of why a predator that normally avoids
people sometimes comes dangerously close.  In January, a lion killed cyclist
Mark Reynolds in an Orange County park and then seriously injured a second
cyclist a short time later. A scenic canyon outside Tucson, Ariz., was
closed for part of March because pumas were repeatedly seen in broad
daylight and apparently without their normal fear of humans.

The UC Davis researchers want to understand whether mountain lion behavior
changes as they get used to people. It's a question that's key to the
cougar's survival in the fast-growing West. In California, even though a
voter initiative outlawed trophy hunting of mountain lions, more than 700
have been killed over the past decade for threatening or harming people.
>From 1909 to 1963, more than 12,000 were hunted and killed in California.
"There might be ways with better understanding to know how to behave around
lions to reduce the public safety incidents or lion attacks," said Walter
Boyce, director of the UC Davis Wildlife Health Center and lead researcher
on the project.

The study in Cuyamaca Rancho State Park, 35 miles east of San Diego, found
that during the day, the GPS-collared lions typically slept at least a
football field's length away from the nearest trail and even farther from
buildings.  After the sun set, however, the cats used the park's extensive
trail system and crept closer to buildings.  One 3-year-old male, dubbed
M-2, crossed Interstate 8 and two other highways a total of 48 times during
a six-month period in 2002. He ultimately was killed by a vehicle.

The GPS plot of the travels of a 2-year-old female called F-8 showed a clear
orbit around - although never through - private properties in the rural
eastern San Diego County community of Harrison Park. A separate study of
three pumas in the Santa Monica National Recreation Area outside Los Angeles
found one ventured into a graffiti-covered underpass to cross a highway.

The results of the UC Davis study are challenging some of the assumptions of
state game wardens. Lt. Bob Turner, who has killed dozens of mountain lions
over more than two decades with the California Department of Fish and Game,
said he no longer believes that a cougar must be killed once it eats
domestic animals.  F-8 was collared after she ate an alpaca, a small cousin
of llamas, in a pen near the park. But after the alpaca breeder modified the
fencing around her remaining livestock, the mountain lion returned to
hunting deer.

"Close to 50 percent of the lions killed could be avoided if people could be
responsible," Turner said. "Most people are plain stupid."   "We are not on
the menu," said Doug Updike, a biologist with the California Department of
Fish and Game. "If a lion had any desire to catch and eat people, we would
see literally hundreds of people dying every day."


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judson Brown" <judsonb@internetcds.com>
To: "'Stanley Ross'" <shr90602@yahoo.com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Cat stove


> A specially designed stove for cooking cats, of course. They are only
> helpful where the PCT passes near suburban areas, obviously.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Stanley Ross
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:40 PM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Cat stove
>
>
> sorry for my ignorance, but what is a Cat stove?  Kizobear
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Informaci?n de Estados Unidos y Am?rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias.
> Vis?tanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com
> _______________________________________________
> pct-l mailing list
> pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> unsubscribe or change options:
> http://mailman.hack.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> pct-l mailing list
> pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> unsubscribe or change options:
> http://mailman.hack.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
>