[pct-l] Light Phenomena on Oriflame Mtn....

[magicalnexus at yahoo.com (Magical Nexus)]

Hi Michael,
It is my understanding that the phenomena at Oriflame should be visible from the first ridge above Scissors Crossing as you climb into the San Felipes. I saw them from the edge of Banner after walking into town for a quick look around.
 
FYI, this climb can be quite hot. A neat trick is to arrive a Scissors Crossing in the mid-day, water up and wait for the late afternoon. As the sun settles the shadow from the ridge across the valley reaches Scissors Crossing and you can make the climb in shade as you follow the shadow up the grade.... hee hee. On a nice night a moonlit hike through the San Felipes can be pretty cool also.
 
The best night hike stretch, in my opinion, is from the water tank outside of Anza to the Hghwy 74 crossing. In full moonlight the desert is just wonderful.
 
Anyway, I am also aware of some observations points near Banner that are also good if you decide to walk into town after coming off the ridge to the desert floor.
 
I have heard that the phenomena on Oriflamme are actually part of a larger pattern of manifestations that appear around the valley.
 
Tedster

Mike Saenz <msaenz@mve-architects.com> wrote:
Very cool!
SO you can see this going on over/on/near Oriflame?
This would help decide where I pitch tent on the San Felipes!
That ridge would be a perfect vantage point to view Oriflame!!!

M i c h a e l S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Magical Nexus [mailto:magicalnexus@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:43 PM
To: Scott Parks
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Light Phenomena on Oriflame Mtn....

Hi Scott,

Very funny. I suppose one could blame G-d as the ultimate source of phenomena, I prefer a more specific explanation.

The lights on Oriflame mountain are similar to some so-called Earthlights (a catch-all phrase to address a variety of photaic phenomena) that manifest in other locations but they aren't quite the same. Those at Oriflame seem to be rather uniform in appearance and behavior. Whitish, flickering, mobile but in a slow and drifting fashion.

I am leading a team to a site in AZ for a week long field study on the 18th of this month to examine light phenomena that occur there on a very regular basis. We will be using ULF and VLF detectors, the usual optical recording devices - analog and digital cameras and camcorders. We will also be using a newly devised technique for capturing optical spectra in hopes of gaining a better understanding of the constituents of the lights. 

These phenomena are different than the Oriflame lights in that they are highly mobile and quite variable in their appearance. Some of them seem to come to the site or leave the site to points unknown. I have been on this site several times for a week at a stretch and we have video'd some really weird activity. 

Duration of events is variable from less than a second to tens of minutes - they can be quite stable. Appearances range from orange spherical shapes with lights in the center, to highly reflective metallic-looking spherical forms, to blobs of orange light, red, green, white and bluish spheres, etc... Occasionally they can get really weird and quite large. Don't really know what to make of it. 

We haven't been able to correlate ULF or VLF reading with observations so the idea that the source of these phenomena are geological requires some more effort to prove - personally I don't think they are the result of tectonic activity though that may account for observations at some other locations.

With respect to other light phenomena on the PCT, I have seen a rather unusual display on the stretch between Aqua Dulce and Green Valley. It was at night and the phenomena appeared at very high altitude as a long, bright yellow rectangular shape that accelerated to the ground in a matter of 1-2 seconds. I thought it was going to explode, the last I saw of it was between me and the ground (I was up on the ridges above Aqua Dulce). It simply winked out. It was quite fast and came to ground quite quickly. Faster than terminal velocity.

Anyway, I am interested if anyone else has seen anything unusual. For more info regarding field work in this area go to www.earthlights.org, or look up the work of Massimo Teodorani and Erling Strand at www.hessdalenproject.org or www.itacomm.net

Will be on the trail after I return from AZ, around the fourth of May. Looking forward to meeting some of you.

Tedster

Scott Parks wrote:
Due to lack of funding for scientific research and the general public bias toward
emotional belief structure, not to mention all the pesky rules those geeky science
types imploy. It has been determined that these mysterious lights are caused by:

god.

> I am curious if anyone has seen the phenomena on Oriflame Mtn 
> described in the old guidebooks (haven't looked in the new ones 
> to see if its there). It is my understanding that the phenomena are 
> seen on the East slope of the mountain rather than in the canyon. 
> I have seen this phenomena once

TIC,
Scott
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