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[pct-l] Up date on Lost Hikers
I was up San Jacinto last weekend - at trail junction where the devil's
slide meets the PCT
there were 20-30 ft. stretches of solid ice on the trail - It was quite fun
to get a running start
and slide on that stuff - sans the exposure of the vivian creek trail that
is.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yakel" <eyakel@earthlink.net>
To: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>; <CMountainDave@aol.com>;
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Up date on Lost Hikers
> They have so much loose rock on Vivian Creek that it could just be bad
foot
> placement or bad luck.
> Eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> To: <CMountainDave@aol.com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Up date on Lost Hikers
>
>
> I heard that at least one of the fatalities WAS an experienced and
equipped
> hiker.
> Not ever had the experience of wearing snow/ice gear, I wouldn't even WANT
> to go up San G.
> Heck! I'm not a big fan of the Vivian in the summer!!!
> I'm a Fish Creek sort of guy ;)
>
> On another note, I WAS on the PCT between Morena Res and Mt Laguna last
> weekend.
> We passed the scout troop that found the body (one of two) on the trail.
We
> passed them going North as they were headed South, about a couple miles
> north of the 8 freeway. One of my partners talked to one of their leaders
> who told him about the body. I though they said they "heard" about a body,
> but my partner confirmed that they found it.
> Funny thing though: the weather wasn't really that bad. It was suppose to
> rain in the afternoon on Saturday, but it held off until about 7pm that
> night. We retired to our tents and continued up to Mt Laguna the next day.
> The rain stopped about 7:30am and by the time we ate breakfast, packed up
> our wet gear and got on the trail at 10:30 am, the blue sky was peeking
> through the clouds here and there. Later in the day, the sky kept getting
> better and better. By the time we got to Horse Meadow, it was sunny...
> And we didn't see anything out of the ordinary up to the point where we
left
> the PCT at Burnt Ranchiera campground.
> I DID see a helicopter flying low while we were about 1/2 mile from our
> finish, but that in itself didn't seem strange considering Mt Laguna has
an
> airfield.
>
> So there were two... and one was partially eaten (ugh). By what could have
> been a mountain lion (yikes!)
> I wonder if they were illegal immigrants.... I didn't see ANY trace of
> illegal immigrants from the southern terminus to Mt Laguna, except for a
> couple discarded sarapes (those rug-ponchos you can buy in TJ) off the
> trail, and those could have been tossed by anyone.
>
> BIG COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT: Damn if there isn't a ton of trash on the trail
> between Morena and Mt Laguna! I started to pick up bits here and there at
> first, but if I picked up everything, I'd have doubled my pack weight! I
> even saw a child's daypack in Long Canyon near the ford.
> It was in good condition, so I left it, thinking that the owner might be
> nearby. It was empty, though...
> We saw everything from EMPTY WATER CONTAINERS, wrappers, beer cans, even
> women's underwear!!! No kidding! There was a bra hanging from a bush and a
> couple pairs of panties with some shorts and what may have been the rest
of
> her clothes on the trail just east of Yellow Rose Spring (there was a fork
> in the trail just north of here, but I can't find it on any map).
>
> M i c h a e l S a e n z
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: CMountainDave@aol.com [mailto:CMountainDave@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Up date on Lost Hikers
>
> It would be interesting to know if any of them carried any crampons. I'm
> betting not. Very few people in S. Cal would own them. Would be one of
those
> anticipation things, since most of them had most likely hiked those trails
> before
> not thinking that ice would be a problem. Gotta be versatile and
anticipate
> problems before hand and LISTEN when experienced rangers warn you about
> potential
> problems. They weren't saying not to go, but to consider the conditions.
> Crampons, even instep ones, would most likely have saved their lives. But
> hey,
> Monday morning quarterbacking is easy
> David C
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