[pct-l] cook pots

[mceverj at qwest.net (Jim McEver)]

Mea culpa - I didn't do my research before making the outrageous claims
I made regarding the thermal properties of various metals. I haven't a
clue as to the source of that "info," but now that I understand the
standards of this scholarly forum a bit better, I will do better in the
future. Please, forgive me for erring. Hopefully we can rebuild the
relationship...

But I think you miss the point(s) entirely: 

1) Ti pots work good for boiling water, they suck for real cooking. 

This is not based upon scholarly research, but from my observations and
experience in the field. I have my ideas as to why, but that is entirely
beside the point.

2) Al and Ti cook pots perform roughly the same.

Regardless of the actual coefficient of thermal conductivity or the
relative thickness of the materials, in my experience, as configured in
the typical cook pot, Al and Ti perform roughly the same. The shape of
the pot probably has more effect than the material.

3) In this instance, to me, money is irrelevant. 

Having some close experience with Alzheimer's, I'm simply unwilling to
use non-anodized aluminum for food prep. I don't care that it is (as I
indicated) a purported link as opposed to an established link. And we
don't want to get into how many times the scientific elite, working with
the the best data and technology available at the time, have been just
flat out wrong (and so our knowledge grows). Everything is a judgment
call, some are just easier to make than others.

You, on the other hand, obviously feel differently. I'm totally down
with that - I don't feel the least need to make you wrong in order to
feel that I make the best decision for me.

Jim


On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 13:09, Ilja Friedel wrote:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Ron Moak wrote:
> > Numbers, numbers, numbers! It's all in the numbers. True titanium doesn't
> > conduct as well as aluminum. However, the reduced conductivity is offset by
> > the fact that titanium is far stronger than aluminum, therefore pots can be
> > made much thinner
> 
> Now that we established that aluminum conducts heat ten times as well as
> titanium, do you argue titanium pots are ten times thinner than aluminum
> pots? I doubt so. But maybe you have a few numbers for me?
> 
> > If we're going to spout out endless variety of numbers, then we ought to
> > make sure we've got our fact's right.
> 
> I totally agree with you wanting to get facts right. I hate if people
> discuss a complex issue (effects of aluminum exposure to the brain taken
> over decades) and then are unable to state simple physical constants
> correctly.
> 
> I'm using aluminum pots because I see quite a few advanteages. If this can
> be shown to be unhealthy practice I will switch immediatly. For that I
> need to see references. So far most of this discussion is based on
> hearsaying. I have the feeling that the titanium pot users believe they've
> got the wonder-material because they paid a lot for it.
> 
> 
> Ilja.
> 
> 
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