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- Subject: [pct-l] RE: pct-l Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4, message 12, cook pots,Steve Se tzer
- From: jcoyle at sanjuan.edu (John Coyle)
- Date: Tue Nov 4 14:22:13 2003
Steve-I am not a thru-hiker, but I have had good luck with the Antigravity
gear 3 cup Aluminum pot($10.95), cozy, and Antigravity Gear Tinman alcohol
stove. They are a small cottage industry in North Carolina and have
excellent service and products at reasonable prices. I prefer aluminum over
titanium because it is cheaper, just as light, and doesn't scorch the food
as much. Titanium is a harder metal and gets the nod in durability however.
Check out www.antigravitygear.com for all their products. John Coyle(JayCo)
I particularly like the Mama's Kitchen Cookset at $49.95.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Stuff Sacks (Joanne Lennox)
2. Re: taril work (Jim Keener)
3. Re: PCT Trail Info and Closures from the PCTA (Richard)
4. Re: Mail Drops for 2004 (Slyatpct@aol.com)
5. Re: Mail Drops for 2004 (Slyatpct@aol.com)
6. Re: Mail Drops for 2004 (Sean Crookham)
7. 2004 Maildrops (Bob Bankhead)
8. Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down. (James LaJocies)
9. Re: S. Calif. Fires vs PCT (Karl Brandt)
10. 1st BIG snow.. (Richard)
11. Re: taril work (Lonetrail@aol.com)
12. cook pots (Steve Setzer)
13. cook pots (yogi yogi)
14. Re: cook pots (Edmond Meinfelder)
15. RE: cook pots (Beth Murdock)
16. Re: Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down. (Marshall Karon)
17. intr (Jim McEver)
18. Cascade Summit (Steve Stenkamp)
19. Re: Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down. (Joanne Lennox)
20. Re: pct-l Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 (henry shires)
21. Re: Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down. (Hiker)
22. Re: cook pots (Hayduke)
23. Re: cook pots (Jeff Bohannon)
24. Re: cook pots (Sean Crookham)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:05:21 -0800
From: "Joanne Lennox" <goforth@cio.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stuff Sacks
To: <CMountainDave@aol.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>,
"Richard" <calliger@infolane.com>
Message-ID: <200311031759.hA3Hxoh5001192@cnwmail.isomedia.com>
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I have been using the tyvek mailers also for holding myfeed. The beet pulp
feed pellets are so hard edged that it has eated right though silnylon
stuff sacks. For some reason the tyvek slickness and thickness works
better(may be the softnesss helps). So beyond just a stuff sack, if you
have something abrasive or hard edged and it is wearing a hole in your
pack, slip that edge into one of these mailers. The edges of a bear
canister, pots, etc comes to mind.
Joanne
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:12:51 -0800
From: Jim Keener <jkeener@pct04.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] taril work
To: jomike47@earthlink.net, "pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net"
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Way to go! You and Michael are heroes. Many, many thanks.
Peace,
Jim
http://pct04.com
> From: "JoAnn Michael" <jomike47@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: jomike47@earthlink.net
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:42:26 -0800
> To: "pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] taril work
>
> Thought people might like to know that Michael Jones of Chico and I
cleared up
> the trail of poison oak and misc. brush at the Crystal Lake/Fish Hatchery
in
> northern California. It was a very bad spot with debris all but covering
the
> trail. It's cleared up now and I'll try to stay on top of that poison oak
> situation in years to come.
>
> JoAnn Michael
> Regional Coordinator, Northern California
> Pacific Crest Trail Association
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:14:25 -0800
From: Richard <calliger@infolane.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Trail Info and Closures from the PCTA
To: AA6J <aa6j@4Jeffrey.Net>, <Bighummel@aol.com>,
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The visitor center is a smallish building ...the park
is 1 mile west of the town about...I ahve stayed there many times..
Richard
At 06:33 PM 10/29/03 -0800, AA6J wrote:
>>>? the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park is serving as evacuation center for
>citizens of that region and recommends that hikers not venture into the
park
>at this time.
>
>
>This state park is huge - larger than most national parks. The evacuation
>center is actually at Borrego Springs High School which is on land
>surrounded by but not in the park. Maybe the visitor center is involved as
>well, but I haven't heard that. I don't think anyone will care if you visit
>the other end of the park 40 miles away - although it's still awful warm
out
>there!
>
>AsABat
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:33:45 EST
From: Slyatpct@aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mail Drops for 2004
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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In a message dated 11/3/2003 11:51:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jkeener@pct04.com writes:
> What parts of the trail are known to be impassable or are highly likely to
> be impassable? I guess it's too soon to know about re-routing. It probably
> comes as no surprise that what had appeared to be a pretty straightforward
> process of paying attention to detail has become one of wandering about in
> the unknown.
>
I wouldn't worry about it until I got there, which means a "buy and mail as
you go" strategy would work best. Carry the state highway maps. If you
have
to hitch around, so be it. You can also strike out on your own, walk the
roads or find your own "trail" as you see fit if there's nothing in place.
This happens nearly every year on the CDT.
Sly
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:39:11 EST
From: Slyatpct@aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mail Drops for 2004
To: Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU
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In a message dated 11/3/2003 12:57:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU writes:
> Is it too soon to know any of this?
>
>
Yes! I'd plan a straight forward hike and adapt as necessary. One needs to
be flexible in these matter. : )
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:06:52 -0800
From: "Sean Crookham" <scrookham@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mail Drops for 2004
To: Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU
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I also will be on the PCT next year. I wouldn't worry about it right now, I
don't think that much of the PCT was affected. I'll be up over the winter to
check everything out in the So Cal areas. By the time we all reach
Washington, we can then begin to worry about the flood damage. Plan your
hikes with the possibility of a reroute in mind.
Sean Crookham
>From: Steve Setzer <Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU>
>To: Jim Keener <jkeener@pct04.com>
>CC: Pacific Crest Trail <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mail Drops for 2004
>Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:25:41 -0700 (MST)
>
>
>I'm in the same boat. I'm also hiking the PCT next year regardless of the
>trail conditions (even if all of Southern Cal needs to be skipped). So
>how does re-routing work? Is this something we should plan out ahead of
>time. Or do you just figure it out as you go? So besides the fires in
>Southern Cal, is Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass the only other section that
>may not be passable? What about the section north of Rainy Pass? And
>about this B&B fire in Oregon? Is it too soon to know any of this?
>
>Steve
>
>
>On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Jim Keener wrote:
>
> > Greetings:
> >
> > I guess this comes under the heading of accepting things I cannot
>change. I
> > spent a part of this weekend firming my decision to hike the PCT next
>year,
> > whatever the trail condition. But I want some help.
> >
> > I'm at that stage of planning where I am deciding mail drops. Obviously
>the
> > areas that involve part of southern California and a big chunk of
>Washington
> > have to go on hold. Here is what I am asking for:
> >
> > What parts of the trail are known to be impassable or are highly likely
>to
> > be impassable? I guess it's too soon to know about re-routing. It
>probably
> > comes as no surprise that what had appeared to be a pretty
>straightforward
> > process of paying attention to detail has become one of wandering about
>in
> > the unknown.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Jim
> >
> > http://pct04.com
> >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:22:22 -0800
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob@comcast.net>
Subject: [pct-l] 2004 Maildrops
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Yes, it is too soon to know what will be available. Even if we knew the
EXACT condition of the trail and support services right now, that still
wouldn't tell us what would or would not be repaired, rerouted, and
available in May 2004.
And there is nothing any of us can do about it (unless we're one of those
whose property was damaged).
Go with the flow. Be flexible. Long distance hiking is a journey of
discovery and personal growth, of foiling and being foiled by Murphy and the
fates. Fortunately, most through-hikers won't get to northern WA until
September. By then, the USFS and NPS will have had time to fix at least some
of the damage.
Bottom line - if it bothers you that much, put your hike off until 2005 or
start at Mojave and go north.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:46:47 -0800
From: James LaJocies <captain@eskimo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down.
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Many of you have already heard of the floods and the big wind storm that
blew through the North Cascades leaving behind a considerable amount of
damage to the PCT. This is of a particular interest to me sense I live
in Washington and plan on doing a full sectional trek through the state
of Washington in 04. Now I am sure that between now and say early July
of 04, all reasonable efforts will be made to restore the damaged areas
of the PCT and/or alternate routes will be set up which will reconnect
to the PCT and then onto Manning for the 04 season.
But I can not help but to wonder just how bad it really is. From what I
am reading in this forum, it would seem that the Northern Cascades were
washed away from the effects of the floods and the 'Big Blow', (that's
what we called it out here.) I am beginning to wonder if I should plan
on using Washington for my first sectional trek or maybe I should start
off with Oregon? I have a certain fondness for wanting to start in
Washington, since this is where I live and I have trekked some of the
PCT before, (areas north of Stevens Pass) and because of those
adventures, the PCT has been on my mind nearly everyday now. Yea, I
know, maybe I should get a life, but I am simi-retired and right now the
PCT has become part of it.
So I ask of you, those who know of how the trails are managed and the
efforts that go into restoring the problem areas of the PCT or to those
areas of the PCT that are beyond being a small problem. Just what should
I expect? Is it reasonable for me to expect that some of the bridges
that were used to ford rivers or some of the roads that were important
resupply routes would be repaired even if it is by a footpath? Would
sections of the trail be closed off with posted alternate routes
circumventing the damaged areas?
In your opinion, maybe it would be a good idea to complete Oregon first,
allowing a year for the North Cascades trek to get back into shape. But
then again, a year of winter can bring on the same terror to the North
Cascades has the early Fall has so far this year. Then again, maybe I am
just worrying too much. I understand the concept that whatever trail
your on at the time, that is your PCT trek. But I am the type that likes
to plan ahead, do the research all before planting one foot in front the
other. Unfortunately, Mother Nature doesn't care about my plans.
Any good, honest feedback is appreciated. -- James
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:04:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Karl Brandt <kbrandt@cats.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] S. Calif. Fires vs PCT
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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I found this on the San Diego Union-Tribune web site. It's a pretty clear
map of the Cedar fire as of friday. It also outlines the 2002 Pines fire.
http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~kbrandt/temp/031031countyfiremap.gif
-Karl
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, JAMES wrote:
>
> I Found this site today that seems to have some better maps of the
fires...
> I compared what is shown against AAA maps of the areas..
>
> http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm
>
> Cedar fire
>
> My interpretation indicates that the A8 section from Laguna Campground
north
> thru A9 and approx to where the PCT crosses the Mason Valley Truck Trail,
> 1 mile into section A10. This is approx. 10 trail miles.
>
> Old fire
>
> Section C11 from the edge with C10 for approx 4 miles and down into Deep
> Creek
> where it intersects road 3N20.
>
> Section C14 from the store on hwy 173 west around Silverwood Lake to the
end
> of Section C 15. maybe 8 trailmiles.
>
> Grand Prix fire
>
> Section D 1 and D 2 approx 2-3 trail miles along the ridge top...
>
> The interpretations are based on the best info available and will need to
> be varified on the
> PCT when the volunteers are able to get in the areas and see what the
trail
> conditions are.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:09:27 -0800
From: Richard <calliger@infolane.com>
Subject: [pct-l] 1st BIG snow..
To: Slyatpct@aol.com, Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Sonora Pass, Ca, Hwy 108
8-10 inches so far- 8000'
R
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:55:50 EST
From: Lonetrail@aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] taril work
To: jomike47@earthlink.net, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Jo Ann
Thanks for the advise on the PC in Seiad Valley. It looks like I am usually
to early or to late. Bill (old Geezer) and I will try in the spring. Thanks
for
clearing up the trail
Lonetrail
>
> Thought people might like to know that Michael Jones of Chico and I
cleared
> up the trail of poison oak and misc. brush at the Crystal Lake/Fish
Hatchery
> in northern California. It was a very bad spot with debris all but
covering
> the trail. It's cleared up now and I'll try to stay on top of that poison
> oak situation in years to come.
>
> JoAnn Michael
> Regional Coordinator, Northern California
> Pacific Crest Trail Association
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:04:47 -0700 (MST)
From: Steve Setzer <Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU>
Subject: [pct-l] cook pots
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Do most thru hikers use titanium pots these days? It seems like they are
the lightest option. Do they have any performance problems compared to
other pots (stainless steel, aluminum). Does the maker/brand matter. The
only titanium pots I've seen are made by Evernew. Has anyone used these?
Any advice?
Thanks,
Steve
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:21:32 -0600
From: "yogi yogi" <yogilists@hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] cook pots
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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yep, a lot of hikers use titanium. I see a lot of the evernew pots. I use
the MSR Titan Kettle, and I love it. It seems like most of the male hikers
like something bigger than the MSR pot, which is barely smaller than one
liter.
Wal-mart sells something called a "grease pot" which is really cheap---maybe
$5---and comperable in weight to titanium pots. I don't remember what the
grease pot is made of or how big it is. Maybe D-Low will chime in on this
thread. He's a big fan of the grease pot.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:39:43 -0700
From: Edmond Meinfelder <edmond@mydogmeg.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] cook pots
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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I used the Titanium Evernew. It was a popular choice when I hiked the PCT.
However, Though the pot itself was great, I found it much larger than
needed. Using my pot for Lipton Rice dinners and cereal, more than half of
its volume went unused. Some used the smaller MSR Titan Kettle which weighs
(I think) 2oz less or the Snow Peak pot, but both have less surface area
which translates to less efficiency in heat transfer.
This year I am pondering Dancing Light Gear's cooking set. I don't need the
cup or the stuff sack, though.
http://trailquest.net/dlgcscookset.html
At 04:04 PM 11/3/2003 -0700, Steve Setzer wrote:
>Do most thru hikers use titanium pots these days? It seems like they are
>the lightest option. Do they have any performance problems compared to
>other pots (stainless steel, aluminum). Does the maker/brand matter. The
>only titanium pots I've seen are made by Evernew. Has anyone used these?
>Any advice?
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:34:41 -0800
From: "Beth Murdock" <dorothea@onemain.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] cook pots
To: "Steve Setzer" <Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU>,
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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We (two people) use the titanium pot by evernew, the 2L size. I weighed it
and it is the same weight as a similar sized aluminum pot we had been using
previously. However, the titanium pot has one very big advantage. It is
much easier to wash. Also, it doesn't get bent and dinged easily.
Beth in Oregon
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[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Steve Setzer
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:05 PM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] cook pots
Do most thru hikers use titanium pots these days? It seems like they are
the lightest option. Do they have any performance problems compared to
other pots (stainless steel, aluminum). Does the maker/brand matter. The
only titanium pots I've seen are made by Evernew. Has anyone used these?
Any advice?
Thanks,
Steve
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:31:36 -0800
From: "Marshall Karon" <m.karon@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down.
To: "James LaJocies" <captain@eskimo.com>,
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Who knows what next year will bring, but this year's rain and wind were
probably exceptional and won't be repeated at this level again for a while.
I hiked the trail 10 years ago and then in 2000 - same trail but most stream
crossing were a little different. But nothing that couldn't be handled. This
time could be different. If you go next year you will witness what happened
and may need to take an alternate route - might be exciting and even more
adventurous. It could be the best thing you ever did.
Marshall Karon
Portland, OR
m.karon@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "James LaJocies" <captain@eskimo.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:46 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down.
> Many of you have already heard of the floods and the big wind storm that
> blew through the North Cascades leaving behind a considerable amount of
> damage to the PCT. This is of a particular interest to me sense I live
> in Washington and plan on doing a full sectional trek through the state
> of Washington in 04. Now I am sure that between now and say early July
> of 04, all reasonable efforts will be made to restore the damaged areas
> of the PCT and/or alternate routes will be set up which will reconnect
> to the PCT and then onto Manning for the 04 season.
>
> But I can not help but to wonder just how bad it really is. From what I
> am reading in this forum, it would seem that the Northern Cascades were
> washed away from the effects of the floods and the 'Big Blow', (that's
> what we called it out here.) I am beginning to wonder if I should plan
> on using Washington for my first sectional trek or maybe I should start
> off with Oregon? I have a certain fondness for wanting to start in
> Washington, since this is where I live and I have trekked some of the
> PCT before, (areas north of Stevens Pass) and because of those
> adventures, the PCT has been on my mind nearly everyday now. Yea, I
> know, maybe I should get a life, but I am simi-retired and right now the
> PCT has become part of it.
>
> So I ask of you, those who know of how the trails are managed and the
> efforts that go into restoring the problem areas of the PCT or to those
> areas of the PCT that are beyond being a small problem. Just what should
> I expect? Is it reasonable for me to expect that some of the bridges
> that were used to ford rivers or some of the roads that were important
> resupply routes would be repaired even if it is by a footpath? Would
> sections of the trail be closed off with posted alternate routes
> circumventing the damaged areas?
>
> In your opinion, maybe it would be a good idea to complete Oregon first,
> allowing a year for the North Cascades trek to get back into shape. But
> then again, a year of winter can bring on the same terror to the North
> Cascades has the early Fall has so far this year. Then again, maybe I am
> just worrying too much. I understand the concept that whatever trail
> your on at the time, that is your PCT trek. But I am the type that likes
> to plan ahead, do the research all before planting one foot in front the
> other. Unfortunately, Mother Nature doesn't care about my plans.
>
> Any good, honest feedback is appreciated. -- James
>
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Message: 17
Date: 03 Nov 2003 19:23:29 -0800
From: "Jim McEver" <mceverj@qwest.net>
Subject: [pct-l] intr
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <1067916210.8836.73.camel@neuromancer.mcever.lo.or.us>
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I want to take the opportunity to introduce myself. I'm Jim McEver,
outdoorsman, mountaineer, and PCT section-hiker of some 35+ years
experience. I spent 15 years of my younger life as an instructor and
administrator with Outward Bound, am now an IT exec with an investment
management firm. Talk about contrasts...
This spring, I got a digital camera and started posting photo journals
of my trips - you can check it out at
http://hiker.patch.com
Hopefully coming years will be as full of great trips as this one has
been so far.
I harbor a desire to do a thru, but being a middle aged guy with a
family and financial obligations, chucking it all for 6 months is a
non-trivial problem. I'm hopeful, but retirement seems the best option.
Hopefully I'll be out there for the long one in five or six years.
At any rate, I've really enjoyed following this year's class on
TrailJournals, and have found the list to be alternately informative and
amusing, but always a pleasure. Desiring my own opportunity to ask,
inform, pontificate, and amuse, I thought I'd best make myself official.
Jim McEver
Lake Oswego, OR
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:35:03 -0800
From: "Steve Stenkamp" <sskamp@bendnet.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Cascade Summit
To: "pct-l" <pct-l@backcountry.net>, "Nancy Shepherd" <nbs@bright.net>
Message-ID: <002301c3a28d$0cbb8450$5aa4b242@stenkamp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
There is no PO at Cascade Summit. It was discontinued many years ago and
consolidated with the PO at Crescent lake Jct. which is 10 miles east.
Send your packages UPS to:
Shelter Cove Resort
West Odell Lake Rd.
Highway 58
Crescent Lake Jct, Or 97425
Has anyone used the post office in Cascade Summit, Oregon, for a mail drop?
When I looked up the zip code online, it said PO Box only. Will they still
accept General Delivery? Did you call them ahead of time?
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 04:03:20 -0800
From: "Joanne Lennox" <goforth@cio.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down.
To: "James LaJocies" <captain@eskimo.com>,
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <200311040457.hA44v9h5023652@cnwmail.isomedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
the nice thing about a thruhike is that you usually start in CALIFORNIA.
there is something to be said for the usual dry and sunny clime. I think
that on average most hikers do not reach real rain until they are in
Washington. And by then it is often September and they are in good shape
for that bust around Glacier Peak. It feels like a continuous summer.
I love Washington; I live here and have climbed here for 35 years. In my
thruhike of 99, it was cloudy and there was some rain, and snow on some
areas. Not so bad. But it was sunny this year when I went through and
what a difference that made. I got to really see the landcsape; it looked
a lot different in the sunshine.
Should you skip WA this year and do Oregon instead. I probably would, but
I think it is more a matter of the weather and the snow melt then it is of
the trail conditions. It is just tooo early to tell. Be that as it may, I
still would not start too much before August unless I went to CA.
My sense is that it is going to take way more than a year to get things
back in much order on the trails here in WA, especially with the poor
funding and the condition of many trailhead roads.
Joanne
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:58:28 -0800
From: henry shires <hshires@jps.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Cc: David hiking PCNST in bits <pcnst2001@oakapple.net>
Message-ID: <BBCC8004.6A38%hshires@jps.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I have a vector (high resolution) PDF that I just sent you.
If anyone else needs a PCT logo, let me know and I can pass it along.
Henry
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:34:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: David hiking PCNST in bits <pcnst2001@oakapple.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Re: PCT Logos
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <200311022034.hA2KYTZ3013799@server-f.oakapple.net>
>
>>> "is there a good clean GIF of the PCT logo (not the PCTA logo) that I
> can use..."
>
>> These are somewhat small, 100 x 100 and 125 x 127, JPEGs:
>
> That's helpful, but I am still hoping that somebody can connect me to a
> GIF - 400x400 or more would be good -
> derived more directly from artwork rather than a JPG photograph that
doesn't
> enlarge well.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:37:37 -0800
From: Hiker <hiker@godlikebuthumble.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Washington Floods and the Big Blow Down.
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20031103223015.023ee660@fastpack.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 07:31 PM 11/3/03, Marshall Karon wrote:
>Who knows what next year will bring, but this year's rain and wind were
>probably exceptional and won't be repeated at this level again for a while.
This may not be the case. With the current level of global warming, the
additional energy in the atmosphere will probably contribute to instability
in weather patterns.
Read that as more severe and less predictable storms, unseasonably warm and
cold weather, and more droughts and floods. Maybe we all better get our
thru-hikes in while we can.
Should be a fun time <g>
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0700
From: "Hayduke" <hayduke@toughguy.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] cook pots
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <000301c3a2e6$ff972860$670a0a0a@ci.flagstaff.az.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I use a grease pot from wallmart. It costs about $7 and works great for one
(maybe 2 depending on the people) person. I made my soda can stove and
windscreen from these instructions:
stove
http://www.pcthiker.com/pages/gear/pepsistoveinstruct.shtml
windscreen
http://www.datasync.com/~wksmith/newdesign.html
The pot has no handle, but I just wear a glove and grab the pot. It comes
with a nice tight fitting lid, and I can pack the stove, windscreen, and a
few extras (I put my spice bag in it). It weighs very little and works great
for me.
And per Yogi's post... It is made of aluminum I think.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Setzer" <Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: [pct-l] cook pots
>
> Do most thru hikers use titanium pots these days? It seems like they are
> the lightest option. Do they have any performance problems compared to
> other pots (stainless steel, aluminum). Does the maker/brand matter. The
> only titanium pots I've seen are made by Evernew. Has anyone used these?
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:30:01 +0000
From: "Jeff Bohannon" <jeffbohannon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] cook pots
To: yogilists@hotmail.com, PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <Law10-F933amZM2J3Lq000359ba@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Wal-mart sells something called a "grease pot" which is really
>cheap---maybe $5---and comperable in weight to titanium pots. I don't
>remember what the grease pot is made of or how big it is.
I used the grease pot this last summer. It has a liip at the top rim that
if not cleaned could hold some nasty bacteria.It's aluminum and weighs about
4 oz. It's larger than my titanium and weighs less, holds a quart.
The only reason I would switch to the titanium is to limit my evenig meals
so that i lose more weight.
This of course is the alternative to giving up the great northwest
micro-brews at town stops :-)
rogue
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:31:37 -0800
From: "Sean Crookham" <scrookham@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] cook pots
To: jeffbohannon@hotmail.com, PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
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Beer > Food
>From: "Jeff Bohannon" <jeffbohannon@hotmail.com>
>To: yogilists@hotmail.com, PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] cook pots
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:30:01 +0000
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Wal-mart sells something called a "grease pot" which is really
>>cheap---maybe $5---and comperable in weight to titanium pots. I don't
>>remember what the grease pot is made of or how big it is.
>
>
>I used the grease pot this last summer. It has a liip at the top rim that
>if not cleaned could hold some nasty bacteria.It's aluminum and weighs
>about 4 oz. It's larger than my titanium and weighs less, holds a quart.
>The only reason I would switch to the titanium is to limit my evenig meals
>so that i lose more weight.
>This of course is the alternative to giving up the great northwest
>micro-brews at town stops :-)
>
>rogue
>
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