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[pct-l] Down compression



Oops, I spelled NORWEGIAN wrong. Boy, will my geese be pissed.

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Olson
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:07 AM
To: pct-l@backcountry.net
Subject: Fw: [pct-l] Down compression


In 1972, when 20, I washed my down bag in the bathtub, and ended up soaking
the down.  I did my best to get rid of water before putting it in the dryer.
Every baffle ripped out.

Jeff
Laramie, WY

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Down compression
>
>
> > I have heard that you really can only clean down with water, then dry
> > in an industrial size dryer and throw in a few tennis balls to de-
> > clump the down as it tumbles in the dryer.
> >
> > I have heard that if you dry-clean down, or use certain soaps, it
> > will strip the oil from the down, which will ruin it.
> >
> > peace,
> > dude
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > How do you clean it? Marsanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> > > [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Ron
> > > Moak Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:54 AM
> > > To: 'JD Schaefer'; 'Kurt P. Herzog'; jjolson@uwyo.edu
> > > Cc: 'PCT Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [pct-l] Down compression
> > >
> > >
> > >>> I have a similar question.  I recently bought a Western
> > >>> Mountaineering
> > > Hilite and it came in a box less than 1/5 of the "stuff" bag size.
> > >  R Jardine warns against this in his PCT book and I've seen
> > > comments about it before.  The vendor has offered to replace the
> > > bag in a larger delivery box explaining that increased volume
> > > increases cost. <<
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I buy into the argument that down looses much loft
> > > due to compression. While I'm sure it's true for synthetics, the
> > > properties of down are considerably different. With down you can
> > > easily restore the loft of an overly compressed sleeping bag by
> > > putting it in a dyer, on no heat, with a few tennis balls.
> > >
> > > There maybe some effects of compression depending upon the quality
> > > of the down, ie some grades of down have more feathers than other
> > > grades, or on how clean the down is. As bags get use, oils and
> > > dirt will get into the down and affect their qualities. However,
> > > proper cleaning of the down bag should restore it to original
> > > condition.  I'm always amazed at how fluffy my bag is after
> > > returning from a thorough cleaning.
> > >
> > > -- Fallingwater
> > >
> > >
> > >
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