[pct-l] Re: Rainier

[saskia.home@xxxxxxxxxx (Saskia Daru)]

Hi Richard,

I know, I know, I just get a little scared when people think Rainier is a
walk-up that can be done without any mountaineering experience!!! Not
implying that the previous poster was saying exactly that.

In one of the books of Bill Bryson on the US he describes that more people
get killed by office equipment than .... (I don't remember the exact
equation). He - and me as a reader with him - got all kinds of strange ideas
of the paperclips attacking the cubicle workers...

Anyway: Mount Rainier certainly is one place I want to return to. So have a
great time, anyone who goes this season!

Saskia

> From: Richard <calliger@infolane.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:32:52 -0700
> To: Saskia Daru <saskia.home@wanadoo.nl>, <pct-l@backcountry.net>
> Subject: Rainier
>
> Having ascended Rainier and been invited to do Everest, and done
> research on Everest, I take slight umbrage at the linkage and the stating of
> "get killed on the mountain in a whole range of ways". This is somewhat
> alarmist to beginners and should be avoided as it borders on
> non-factual emotionalism IMHO <smile>...
>
> You can get killed anywhere in several ways! Crossing the street,
> driving to the trailhead; one of my dear friends died leaving
> our athl;etic club down the corner at the stop light someone
> hit and killed her! Any mountain as well, not just Rainier;
> to the properly trained and equiped, Rainier is no more no less
> dangerous than any other equivalent 14'er such as Mt Blanc
> for example! You have to know the crevass danger, know what
> a z-hitch is, know the weather, and other common mountaineering
> contraindicators before proceeding to ascend. Saying it is
> dangerous and you can get killed in an unsupported manner
> is not right.
>
> So I would unconnect the Everest/killing linkage as perhaps
> a little too alarmist. <smile>
>
> Respectfully and Thank you for listending to me on my little
> soap box.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> At 11:33 AM 4/21/03 +0200, Saskia Daru wrote:
>> On hiking and climbing Rainier:
>>
>> Also, if you feel that you don't have the time or money to do the climb
>> properly, you can still hike up to Camp Muir. Up to that point it is truly a
>> walk-up and you have a marvellous view (weather permitting) of a.o. Mount St
>> Helens. We loved it! Just don't do it on the weekend, when over 100 people
>> climb up sometimes.
>>
>> By the way: Mt Rainier is used for training for Everest expeditions. You can
>> get killed on the mountain in a whole range of ways...
>>
>> Have fun!
>> Saskia
>>
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