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- Subject: [pct-l] The Equalizer
- From: scottie_wujcik@hp.com (WUJCIK,SCOTTIE (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
- Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:49:57 -0700
llama lady,
I am a member in a hiking club and there is a large number of ladies that
participate. Please send me the directions so I can pass them along as I'm
sure many of the ladies would make good use of your item. Thanks.
Scottie
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Today's Topics:
1. Kick-Off Weekend (Montedodge@aol.com)
2. Re: Looking for Electrolyte Replacement Tablets (Brian Robinson)
3. Re: Kick-Off Weekend (Bighummel@aol.com)
4. Flyin' Brian talk in Concord California 5/14 (Brian Robinson)
5. Re: Flyin' Brian talk in Concord California 5/14 (Brick Robbins)
6. Old Climbing Glasses for sale (Montedodge@aol.com)
7. The "equalizer" (Marion Davison)
8. 4th ADZPCTKO (Bighummel@aol.com)
9. Re: Looking for Electrolyte Replacement Tablets (Marshall Karon)
10. Electrolyte Replacement (Donna Saufley)
11. Ontario Peak hike, Sat. May 4th (vichanson@juno.com)
12. I'm off!! (lady leaper)
13. re-suppley Soufley's/Agua Dulce (James R Bennett)
14. Re: The "equalizer" (Bighummel@aol.com)
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Message: 1
From: Montedodge@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:07:27 EDT
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Kick-Off Weekend
First , I would like to thank all the hard workers for making such a great
weekend!! ( Special thanks to Greg, Bob Reiss, Tom Renolds, Bill Pierson,
Charlie Jones ) Starman ( PCT 2001 Hiker) did and great cooking job as
well.
Anyone who didn't make it last weekend really missed out!! Bear
Canister???
Much stronger than I thought. Maybe with the right training , I could beat
it
in a rematch!!! Actually Tom is right. I took it off to the side and gave
the
Garcia a few good shots on the paved road ( one on it's side and one on the
end piece) and the thing held up. ( I feel if I hammered it repeatedly for
several minutes with a rock , the canister would lose, but a bear would not
do this) The new Carbon Fiber Canister looked impressive and the cost is
only
that of a good pack or tent and should last a number of years. Thanks as
well to Bob Reiss's Dad who has a " Bob Newhart" type of humor and very
enjoyable to be around. Also , Marion and Ray Davision were real hits at
the
Kick-Off. There Lamas were a hit with all in the campground and Marion is
one
mean Guitar picker and singer!!! Gotta go, I'm dead tired after a straight
shot drive back to Olympia. Good luck and see you all again!! P.S. Thanks
for helping out my " Lost" Sister Tom and As a Bat!! She had a great time as
well. Monte
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Message: 2
From: "Brian Robinson" <brian_a_robinson@hotmail.com>
To: ronm@fallingwater.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Electrolyte Replacement Tablets
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:58:29 -0700
Hi Ron,
Most thru-hikers don't need these, but here's what Ultrarunners use:
http://store.yahoo.com/ultrafit/sucbufcap.html
Flyin' Brian
>From: Ronald Moak <ronm@fallingwater.com>
>
>In preparation for my upcoming CDT hike, I've been looking for some
>electrolyte replacement tablets.
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Message: 3
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:02:42 EDT
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kick-Off Weekend
To: Montedodge@aol.com, pct-l@backcountry.net
Monte,
It was good to see you again and all of your great stuff. Don't forget to
put me in your will for that long handled ice axe! It was good to meet your
sister also.
Thank you for the second (as I recall) annual "Monte Dodge Pop Can Stove
Clinic". Let's see, that's MDPSC. Next year I think it might be a good
thing to put out several tables, as suggested by GVP, and have a stove
clinic, a gear review clinic, a water sources clinic, a bear canister
clinic,
. . . .
I'm putting together a list of thank you's to post to the list for all of
those that helped out so much to make this year's event so great. You may
get the impression that just a few people put in the majority of the work,
but other than Bob Reiss, it mostly gets carried by a very large number of
people now.
I couldn't believe how willing all were to step up and help prepare and
serve
each meal. Pooh (at Pooh Corner - Donner Summit) was always the first to
step up to the barbeque or stove and start flippin the burgers, or cookin
the
bacon, or . . . Here's a Trail Angel that just can't get enough of giving.
I see where he got his trail name!
Strider
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Message: 4
From: "Brian Robinson" <brian_a_robinson@hotmail.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net, BackpackingLight@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:06:46 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] Flyin' Brian talk in Concord California 5/14
I'm giving a free slide show and talk about my Calendar Triple Crown hike on
Tuesday May 14th at 7pm at the Willows Theater in Concord California
adjacent to the Concord REI store.
For more information, click on:
http://www.rei.com/storelocator/concord/
Then click on "Store events"
Then "May Clinics & Events"
My apologies to anyone who considers this message off-topic.
Flyin' Brian Robinson
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:15:57 -0700
To: "Brian Robinson" <brian_a_robinson@hotmail.com>,
pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
From: Brick Robbins <brick@fastpack.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Flyin' Brian talk in Concord California 5/14
At 04:06 PM 4/30/02, Brian Robinson wrote:
>My apologies to anyone who considers this message off-topic.
I don't see how anyone could think your talk would be off topic for this
list.....
Just wish I could make it....
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Brick Robbins mailto:brick@fastpack.com
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Message: 6
From: Montedodge@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:04:15 EDT
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Old Climbing Glasses for sale
Anyone who knows me knows I'm a sucker for Old hiking and climbing gear.
Just got 2 pair of antique glacier glasses from " Major Surplus and
Survival". Most this stuff is junk army suplus , BUT these are so cool I
need
to share with the list. ( Vented dark green glass with either brass or black
eye cups that are vented) Only 16.95 and ask for item number 8-4312 on page
47. ( These are 50 years old) Call 1-800-441-8855. Made for Swiss troops and
have small tin carrying box. ( Just like Hillary) Of course , my wife says I
look like the " Gyro-copter" guy from Mad Max in them but they are as "
Classic " as Classic gets. Anyone over 40 y/o remembers these glasses. (
Don't forget to bring your old tube of white zinc oxide to complete the
Look!!!!!!!)
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:44:12 -0700
From: Marion Davison <mardav@charter.net>
To: PCT List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] The "equalizer"
Strider referred to my gear entry as "llama packing equipment"
Au contraire, it is essential equipment for any female hiker. I've used
one for over a decade, and I only converted to llama packing six years
ago. It is especially essential to any female who hikes with a bunch of
guys. Are you tired of looking for a big enough bush to hide in while
you pee?
I will be bringing a larger supply of equalizers to next year's
ADZPCTKO, as it was no problem finding eager owners at this years'
event.
Ladies, if you can't wait a year to get one, send me a message and I
will send you the details on how to make your own. All you need is a
long necked plastic bottle.
Marion Davison
"llamalady"
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Message: 8
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:19:18 EDT
To: pct-l@backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] 4th ADZPCTKO
More info on the goings on and general event:
240 people confirmed attended, probably 250 total. Made up of (approximate
numbers) 120 aspiring thru-hikers(!), 30 past thru-hikers, 30 aspiring
future
thru-hikers, 10 trail angels (as in live on the trail and assist hikers as
opposed to the huge number of trail angels that help out at the ADZ), 40
section hikers, 10 curious/supporter/government, 6 girlfriends, 4 moms and
three dogs and two llamas!
Liz Bergeron, the Executive Director of the PCTA attended with Eric
Weinnman,
Joe Sobinovsky, Henry Shires, Laraine and Paul Downer, all from the PCTA
also. They gave a short speech to the crowd on the focus of the PCTA and
were successful in signing up several new members and sold a lot of shirts
and PCT cool stuff.
Tim Stone, the NFS Manager of the PCT also attended and kept a pretty low
profile. He said that he liked getting into the feel of the trail community
and hearing the concerns and issues of the hikers.
In addition to Tom Reynold's bear canister packing demonstration already
described, Monte Dodge gave his clinic on pop can stove making and gave away
many to the aspiring thru-hikers. A number of cat food can stoves were also
given away. Monte also brought a large roll of tyvek and could be seen
mobbed by a crowd of hikers for about two hours, measuring it out and
cutting
it off, measuring it out and cutting it off. $1/ft. Thanks Monte and Tom!
Meadow Ed sat at the end of the food line on Friday night and Saturday night
with the list of registered attendees and checked off names and wrote down
the names of those that we didn't have. This list provided the most
accurate
count of attendance that we have ever had. Thanks Ed!
Saturday evening as it was beginning to grow dark I was approached by a
hiker
who said they had passed a hiker south of Hauser Canyon who didn't look like
he would be able to make it to Lake Morena by dark and didn't have shelter
with him. Reynolds and I mobilized to the locked gate at Hauser Canyon to
see if he might be there, but found no one and nothing.
We enlisted the help of the rangers and mobilized some volunteers and
supplies to help look for him. We found him just up the trail a bit,
severely dehydrated, deeply exhausted and no working flashlight. We helped
him back and fed him dinner and he was fine. He (to remain unnamed for
obvious reasons) underestimated his conditioning, the distance, brought the
wrong kind of food, etc., etc. He learned some good leasons though!
A real big Thanks to Tripod, Paul Hacker, As A Bat and Yosemite for helping
to find him. Next year we'll be a bit better prepared for something like
this.
Two banjos, a guitar, a set of bongos and several beautiful voices around
the
fire Saturday night under a full moon.
Thanks to Christine Kudija for making up name tags that gave the trail name,
real name and status, all pre-printed from the website register. Adorned
with the PCT logo and "4th ADZPCTKO" these will certainly become collectors
items in the future.
Thanks to Norm Switzer (one of the Kelty Kids, 1977) for bringing a 15 or so
watermellons.
Thanks to Anne Reidman who, with her husband Jim, not only stash water at
Scissors Crossing and the Lucky 5 site, but also made a huge, huge macaroni
salad. How fast it was consumed was a testament to how good it was.
Many other contributions both big and small were made to the event by many,
many individuals. There are many that I am certain that I don't even know
about. Thank you to all of you.
All of you who contributed to the cost of running this event subsidized the
feeding of approximately 120 thru-hikers! Jack Coughlin couldn't attend but
sent in a donation to help anyway.
About 10 to 12 - 2001 thru-hikers were in attendance, thank you for coming
back to help the 2002'ers! 9(!) thru-hikers from 1977 came, only second to
the 2001'ers in attendance for any year.
Special recognition of Charlie Jone's efforts must be made known. He has
directed and executed the initial stashing of 68 (!) gallons of water on top
of the San Felipe Hills. This is done by hiking the water in! The access
to
the stash site is a mile from the trail but several hundred feet of
elevation
below. 3 gallons are put in a backpack and a gallon in each hand (calculate
5
gallons x 8 lbs./gallon = 40 pounds). 68 divided by 5 is 14 trips. He was
helped by several members of the Sierra Club who carried much of the water
to
the edge of the steeper part. Charlie did the rest. Yesterday he
re-stocked
the stash with ten more gallons and picked up the empties and carried them
out. I hope those that use this water will read this and understand just
what it takes to provide that water.
I can't wait for next year's!
Greg "Strider" Hummel
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Message: 9
From: "Marshall Karon" <m.karon@attbi.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Electrolyte Replacement Tablets
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:08:11 -0700
Although not as potent as others, I have used Emer'gen-C Mineral Ascorbates
in small packages. Seemed to give me a boost. Got them at Fred Meyer's
Nutrition Centers.
Marshall Karon
Portland, OR
m.karon@attbi.com
(503) 232-5271
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From: "Ronald Moak" <ronm@fallingwater.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:26 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Electrolyte Replacement Tablets
> In preparation for my upcoming CDT hike, I've been looking for some
> electrolyte replacement tablets. They are similar to Gatorade or other
> sports drinks, except I don't want to carry the heavy sugar drinks.
>
> I've discovered in the past that the first few weeks of my hike are always
> the most difficult. With periods of extreme cramps, loss of muscle control
> and occasionally the in ability to focus well. Most, if not all, caused by
> the loss of electrolytes. Even though I generally drink a quart of
Gatorade
> immediately upon entering towns and carry a new one when leaving, it
doesn't
> even come close to solving my problem.
>
> I've looked at several drug stores, but all they seem to carry is standard
> salt tablets. I know that runners and endurance athletes often use them,
so
> if anyone knows of a good source, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
> -Fallingwater
>
>
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Message: 10
From: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley@sprynet.com>
To: <ronm@fallingwater.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:11:38 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] Electrolyte Replacement
Ron,
I've become a big Cytomax fan. It's not what I consider sweet, but it =
is a powder, and you mention looking for tablets. I find that drinking =
it (I really like the punch flavor) really reduces muscle fatigue and =
speeds recovery. I started using it mountainbiking, and found it to =
help with all other activities. The trick seems to be to drink it =
before, during, and after strenuous activity. While I am not able to =
quantify the results with statistics, I swear by the stuff -- it really =
helps. It's not cheap and it can be a little hard to find in grocery =
stores, etc. A good bike shop or sporting goods store should have it in =
stock. Locally I find mine at Performance Cyclery and Sports Chalet.
Great seeing you at the Kick-Off. What a blast!!!
-=3DDonna Saufley=3D-
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Message: 11
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:51:45 -0700
From: vichanson@juno.com
Subject: [pct-l] Ontario Peak hike, Sat. May 4th
Hikers,
It was good meeting many of you this past weekend at the ADZ! It was a
great event. Thanks to all who made it such a great success, and for the
updates, Strider (and all).
This Saturday I will be leading a 13 mile RT hike up Icehouse Canyon to
Icehouse Saddle and then on to Ontario Peak. It is listed as a moderate
to strenuous hike by Robinson in "Trails of the Angeles". Based on his
other ratings I would guess it would be moderate if you are used to
hiking regularly, strenuous if you aren't. There are 3800' of elevation
gain, topping out at 8693' high Ontario Peak. On the way we go through
Kellys Camp, originally a mining camp, then a trail resort in the 20's,
now an unimproved wilderness campsite. There will be some beautiful
scenery traveling through white fir, ponderosa and sugar pine and finally
lodgepole pine as well as, weather permitting, a great view from the
summit.
We will meet at the Icehouse Canyon parking area, 1 1/2 miles above Mt.
Baldy Village just off Mt. Baldy Road. A National Forest Adventure Pass
is required to park there, they are available at the Mt. Baldy Visitor
Center in the village ($5.00/day, $30/year) as well as many other places
such as REI, SportMart & Sport Chalet. Meeting time will be 9:00 am. I
will be leaving my house in Torrance at 7:30 if anyone wants to meet
here. Please confirm if you are joining us and where you will meet us.
At the moment (Tuesday night) the weather forecast for Baldy Village is
for a cool 61 degrees, cloudy and windy for Saturday, so be prepared for
cooler weather on the summit. Bring plenty of water and food, it should
be a good workout!
Vic Hanson
310-787-7245
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Message: 12
From: lady leaper <ilovfiveks@knology.net>
Date: 1 May 2002 14:09:16 GMT
Organization: Backcountry.Net
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] I'm off!!
Just wanted to say a quick thanks to everyone for providing such great
info. It seems like I spent most of my time reading various messages and
only posted a few of my own. I'm sorry to have missed the KO, but that's
just the way things worked out. I'm tying up loose ends here and will be
starting Saturday. Again thanks all the support. Hasta luego.
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Message: 13
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:31:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "James R Bennett" <benne129@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: [pct-l] re-suppley Soufley's/Agua Dulce
Ok, I have to admit this has come up before, but I crashed my computer (no
virus, my laptop literally crashed, I belong in the woods using smoke
signals)
so I lost 35+ pages of PCT planning logistics and am now forced to use
library
computers w/o decent web access.
I am looking for the address of a house near Agua Dulce that accepts
packages
for thru-hikers, the Soufley's? I was planning on using the pizza parlor
and
small store for re-supply to Kennedy Meadows (244.7miles, 6-7 days) but have
been told numerous times that the store is closed. I am not picky on
re-supply towns and can get by on junk food (don't tell my parents or my
"kids") but am using 5 mail drops so as to ease the time in town and
guidebook
weight. Can anyone offer a suggestion? Please reply directly to me at
benne129@msu.edu
TIA,
Han Solo
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Message: 14
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:34:26 EDT
Subject: Re: [pct-l] The "equalizer"
To: mardav@charter.net, pct-l@backcountry.net
Ah, another goof by me. Sorry. I can get it all wrong if I try hard
enough.
On second thought, I might have described it as "llama packing equipment"
anyway, as I really don't understand anything about "female" problems. ;-)
Strider
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