[pct-l] Bear Canisters and their uses

[mardav@charter.net (Marion Davison)]

Wow, so you think it is appropriate to cuss me out on e-mail on a public
list.  I would never do that to you.  Too bad your mamma didn't teach
you any manners.  Ever heard of the golden rule?
Maybe the bears stay away from my llama camp because I practice stealth
cooking techniques, keep a clean camp and would never be so stupid as to
put out bait for bears. And my llamas are big aggressive studs who sleep
within ten feet of my tent. Don't equate me with your idiot llama
packing acquaintance.  Llama packers are no more alike than backpackers
in general.  What a specious argument you use.  Rage got your brain
cells today?
Marion Davison

"Reynolds, WT" wrote:
> 
> Marion-
> Ya well bull shit!! I hiked with Mel Garside, another confirmed LLama lady
> and she told me the same thing....then proceeded to tell em how her tent was
> ripped and how she baited bears by placing small amounts of food outside of
> the camp. As usual, LLAmas USUALLY scare bears but not always.
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marion Davison [mailto:mardav@charter.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:14 PM
> To: Montedodge@aol.com; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bear Canisters and their uses
> 
> I heartily agree, Monte.  We have spent close over 100 nights in
> Yosemite and Sequoia NP in the last five years, with and without our
> llamas.  The bears don't bother us at all, because they are afraid of
> llamas.  We now carry two Garcia cannisters just to placate any ranger
> who might stop us.  They are a plain nuisance.  In 40 nights on the
> trail this summer we never met a single ranger, no one checked our
> permit or asked to see the stinking cans. But we still had to haul them
> around and live out of them all summer, for fear of random fines.
> Next year we are doing all our hiking north of Yosemite (the Tahoe Rim
> trail plus 150 miles of PCT) because we are so sick of quotas, dog bans,
> anti-llama laws, and bear cans!
> Marion Davison
> 
> Montedodge@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >  If you want true joy in life, just load a canister with 2 hersey bars,
> honey
> > scented anything, smoked sausage and a Furbie.Bear swats canister and
> Furbie
> > laughs it's b--- off. Canisters are still just a temporary short term fix
> to
> > pampering problem bears. I would advise use of a small airhorn,
> wristrocket
> > and maybe a can of pepper spray. There is nothing " Natural" or cute about
> > pampered Park bears. The NPS brings this problem on theirselves with their
> > lame  policies creating an " Unnatural" lack of fear between people and
> > bears. Most anywhere else but in parks, bears are no problem . ( Unless
> you
> > like to fry bacon in your tent!!) ( Remember the story of the totaled
> Toyota
> > at Whitney Portal?) Bully bears,people,sharks,dogs or whatever need to be
> > taught a " Painfull" learn about their behavior. If they don't get the
> > picture then, you need to either destroy or remove them. ( Whether it be
> > bears,people ,dogs, sharks,mice, snakes, ants,worms,etc.etc. etc.) To open
> > bear canister while wearing oven mitts, just pick up your " Eggshell Like"
> > 75.00 canister and smack sharply on rock located on ground. So far, bears
> > have figured out problems much more difficult than this.( Like all the NPS
> > bear cans  and food bags balanced over branch) A canister is a band-aid
> fix
> > and another reason to allow NPS to tax you( ticket you) in the process. No
> > canister( of their choice) and you face a fine.
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