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HMMMM.... Re: [pct-l] Marathons in the Wilderness

EXCEPT for very very limited areas  (eg, Mt Whitney Trail)
there are NO DAY HIKE QUOTAS! so this argument is like, **totally**
incorrect...lets stop pushing it here, ok?

Marathons would fall under the day hike quota auspices..
and thereffore not subject to quotas except as mentioned
previously, in heavily traveled area: 50,000 people a year
go up the Portal trail (according to LP Ranger station blurb)
and many go into Shasta area as well...again, however, there
are normally to day-use quotas on 99% of the trails in the

... however I suspect, since the last time I ran a Marathon,
there was a "huge" infrastructure of way stations, bystanders,
aid stations, water stations, etc etc; that the marathon itself may
be classified under a "special use function" and need a separate
permit. However this is CONJECTURE from speaking to Ranger
Aaron at YNP and he did not know the exact FS rules. In YNP it
would be a group permit.

Rich Calliger

At 10:35 PM -0800 10/31/01, CMountainDave@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 10/31/01 10:05:21 PM, brick@webrooster.com writes:
><< Once again, I ask, what section of the Wilderness Act prohibits running
> >>
>I don't think any specific section of the wilderness act prohibits marathons.
>But quotas do. Put 100 marathoners on any given trail (such as the JMT) in a
>wilderness and there ain't much room for anyone else unless you think
>overcrowding doesn't matter. (Then why support quotas on Mt. Whitney)One
>weekend it's the Cleveland bunch, the next the Denver bunch, then San Diego
>and so on and so on until the Summer is gone. By marathoners getting their
>permits enmasse, it isn't long before it gets pretty hard for anyone else to
>get a permit. That's the reason they were banned in Olympic N.P. Too popular
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