[pct-l] Re: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #283 - 9 msgs

[katrinakole@yahoo.com (katrina kole)]

I was washing out my bandana's today, and it reminded
me of my 7 weeks on the trail, when I was soooooo
happy to just rinse out
my bandana and put the cool, wet cloth to my
face, then ring it out on my head in the desert....GOD
that seems like so long ago (it was last year)...I
would KILL
to go back to that time, although no one could have
told me then....but ..and I think about the
PCT so much lately, like that author (on the AT) said:
 "...you hike a long-distance trail...it digs a groove
in your life that you trip over every day..."  

LunaKat




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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: - -hikerrob <hikerrob@excite.com>
> To: PCT-L@backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ticket
> 
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:56:36 -0700, thatcher koch
> wrote:
> 
> >  hi,
> >  i need some input from the list. last august, i
> backpacked from echo lake
> to
> >  toulumne meadows. i used amtrak to and from the
> pct. the amtrak driver
> was
> >  kind enough to let me off at little norway,
> saving me all the problems of
> >  finding transportation back from the "y". i
> figured i would be able to
> get a
> >  wilderness permit somewhere along the way. what i
> found was at each new
> >  wilderness i came to had a self registering
> permit system for it's own
> area.
> >  i entered yosemite nat'l park at dorothy lake
> pass. when i was less than
> >  five miles from toulumne meadows, i ran into a
> ranger. i told him i had
> my
> >  bear cannister, but i had two problems. one, i
> needed to know the
> schedule
> >  was for the shuttle to the valley and if i still
> had time to catch it.
> and
> >  two, i didn't have a wilderness permit. as it
> turned out, he wasn't much
> >  help on the shuttle schedule and he gave me a
> ticket for $110.00 for not
> >  having the permit. i've decided to contest the
> ticket on the grounds that
> it
> >  was my intent all along to get a permit (after
> all, i volenteered the
> >  information i didn't have one) but circumstance
> made it difficult or
> >  impossible. what i need to know from the list is
> where is the district
> court
> >  building in yosemite? and what are my chances on
> having the ticket thrown
> >  out. thanks.
> if the cop(ranger) shows up ferrgetaboutit, your
> guilty.even if the judge is
> sympathetic to your argument he(or she),will still
> fine you,but may reduce
> it. do`nt count on it. i dont know where you live
> but your best bet for a
> aquital(sorry i cant find my dictonary) is to try to
> get the ticket tranferd
> to the san fransisco federal court(this is a federal
> charge)where they are
> far to busy to prosecute this charge and will
> probally dismiss it if you
> fight it. ive done this in the seattle federal court
> and it worked for me.
> rob
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:27:50 -0700
> To: PCT-L@backcountry.net
> From: Brick Robbins <brick@fastpack.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ticket
> 
> At 07:06 PM 10/11/01, - -hikerrob wrote:
> >if the cop(ranger) shows up ferrgetaboutit, your
> guilty.even if the judge is
> >sympathetic to your argument he(or she),will still
> fine you,but may reduce
> >it. do`nt count on it. i dont know where you live
> but your best bet for a
> >aquital(sorry i cant find my dictonary) is to try
> to get the ticket tranferd
> >to the san fransisco federal court(this is a
> federal charge)where they are
> >far to busy to prosecute this charge and will
> probally dismiss it if you
> >fight it. ive done this in the seattle federal
> court and it worked for me.
> 
> A couple of things.
> 
> 1) I think the court for Yosemite is the Federal
> Court in Fresno. They may 
> have a court in the Valley, with a "judge-pro-tem."
> This is a lawyer acting 
> as a judge, and they are often used for minor cases
> in busy courts, or in 
> remote areas that don't have their own court. You DO
> NOT have to accept a 
> court with a judge-pro-tem. If you decline to
> accept, they will move your 
> case to a real court.
> 
> I fought a ticket issued in Mammoth, the court was
> in Bishop. There was a 
> judge pro tem, which I declined to accept. That
> meant that the case was 
> transferred to the Federal Court in Fresno.
> 
> By the time all this happened, the seasonal ranger
> had been laid off for 
> the summer, and didn't show up in Fresno, so I won
> by defaul, HOWEVER 
> ***I*** had to show up, otherwise I would have had a
> warrant issued for my 
> arrest for ' failure to appear. '
> 
> The trip to Fresno cost me more than the ticket
> would have, but I was going 
> to the Valley anyway,so my timing for the trip was
> impacted, but I didn't 
> make an extra trip.
> 
> 2) Wilderness permits are issued for the whole trip
> at the point of entry. 
> If you still have copies of your self issue
> wilderness permits from the 
> SAME TRIP, you could show you attempted to comply,
> and argue that if you 
> had understood how to fill out the form correctly,
> you would have been in 
> compliance, therefor there was no "intent."
> 
> All, in all, fighting the ticket will cost you more
> in time and gas than 
> just paying it.
> 
> 
> --
> Brick Robbins                      
> mailto:brick@fastpack.com
> 
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> Message: 3
> From: CharlieJones@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:46:24 EDT
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ticket
> To: PCT-L@backcountry.net
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